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the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that a flying disc has been found and is

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now in the possession of the army

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game is rigged change the game game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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hard difference is worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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good evening Fade to Black

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how you doing I'm your host Jimmy church

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and tonight

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well first off it's Tuesday December

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2022 and our guest is Susan Slaughter

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and tonight we're going to be talking

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about well a lot of stuff but uh we're

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going to be talking about the art of the

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Seance

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we're going to do that and a whole lot

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more she's a Paranormal Investigator uh

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TV host darkzone TV travel channels

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paranormal caught on camera Ghost

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Hunters International all that stuff and

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one of my favorite guests and our good

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friend and I would like to welcome back

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to fade to black the one and only Susan

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Slaughter Susan Jimmy how you doing I

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made it by the skin of my teeth we're

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gonna just give them in a little back

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story how I was running late in this

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scenario so it was so funny let's just

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be real yeah yeah exactly but uh

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storming outside right now in Miami it's

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super wet day and I'm here like I gotta

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get to Jimmy show in time and I made it

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I made it yeah yeah without headphones

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and a microphone so I hope I look and

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sound good for y'all yeah well you know

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it's better to look good than to sound

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good you know that's what they keep my

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mouth shut then that's what they say

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um here's uh you know here's here's the

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crazy uh thing Susan

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um I I actually I want to start off uh

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unparanormal uh tonight because the

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breaking news right before showtime and

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you probably haven't caught this yet I

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read it in the comments section Elon

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stepping down as Twitter CEO that's good

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he's got bigger fish to fry man

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you would think you know you would think

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focus on going to outer space focus on

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like you know a mission free Vehicles

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you know yes and all that stuff I think

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is beneath him so well just like

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anything else

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I won the lottery I would right or if I

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if I had all the money in the world or

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if I had this or if I had but none of us

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really have a concept of what it's like

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to be the richest man in the world well

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now he's number two you know he's he's

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been teetering back and forth like this

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first shock value because at that level

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let Trump back on Twitter oh there's

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that but but you know what I mean where

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you're you're cruising around the world

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on a private jet you own all of these

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companies you're the World's right are

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you talking about me or well tell me

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what it's like

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in that uh what you've bought everything

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you can buy right that you don't want

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for or need anything and so at that

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level of shock value what do you do you

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know buy another Island right so what do

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social media Network okay let's say

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that's the case

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don't you bring in somebody to run that

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social because you've got your rocket

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company you've got your car company

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um is isn't your time best just divided

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up and then you bring in somebody you

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know what you know I don't know at that

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now you know and I'm sure he had

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somebody that he had hired to do all the

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social media like stuff I mean he also

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fired so many people so he had to have a

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backup plan right so

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some privacy and an island to get away

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can buy I'm sure there's some things

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dollars up to have and I I mean what he

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tweets uh before Twitter you know aliens

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these crazy tweets and they were so much

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to myself the world's richest guy and it

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seems to me I could be wrong but he's up

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tweeting right who's doing the why I

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don't I don't know but like a social

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media guy you know like he's got to you

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think like he's got to have like

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Kardashian level social media people

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real time things that that are happening

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tweeting I you know so they don't they

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don't manage their own so on social

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medias at all they just kind of they

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like a whole team of working on that and

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a PR person that like yays or Nays the

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things that go on the internet you know

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it's not a position I envy whatsoever to

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be honest like Fame is not something

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that I I mean personally I've never

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wanted you know like I feel like uh

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privacy is like so important especially

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when you're really weird like Elon you

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know like or us you're like the last

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thing you need is an exposure on that

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like look like we all know you're an

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alien Elon it's just a matter of time I

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don't know if you've ever seen this

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movie called Under the Skin with Like

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Scarlett Johansson like I just feel like

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one moment he's just gonna like unzip

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his flesh and just be like this star

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being of like within that and he's like

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I'm trying to bring back like you know

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what Tesla started you know hence the

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name like that's the thing a lot of

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people start with like this like you

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know momentum of like pureness you know

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which is like he obviously named the

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biggest company off of somebody whose

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best idea that was ever created was

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snuffed by oil right and then and then

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we're bringing in like emission free

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things trying to save the planet from

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like you know human progression you know

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global warming right and so all that

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starts you know but now look at where

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we're at he's the richest man buying

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Twitter and then I feel like you lost

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the plot you know and sometimes you get

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there's a lot of people that you have to

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start bringing on to your team when you

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start taking on such large Endeavors

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like that and then

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um those voices get into your head and

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then they start chipping away at the

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main idea and the man that you were that

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started this whole momentum and then

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people lose the plot you know and so I

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think that's what happened with Twitter

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I mean I maybe he has some other grand

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scheme like under his sleeve that we

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don't really see yet and like everyone

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picks at him like vultures for picking

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on something little but you know

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people's whole lives were made and

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broken by social media especially on

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Twitter so it could be like a really

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solid political move on his end to have

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that you know and just be like oh you

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know like I could snuff your platform

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you know if you don't follow through

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my Endeavors or my business I mean maybe

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he's thinking politically a little bit

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um I am such a fan of his

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and and I thought that I I had him

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figured out in that I didn't have him

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figured out right so I had that part

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figured out and I was I was comfortable

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um Twitter as big of a mess

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um as as it was and and now certainly it

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who truly understood the influence and

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the complexity that Twitter became

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know texting thing to use inside of

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companies right sharing uh information

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it grew into what it is today but it now

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it's an information Source it's a news

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source governments around the world

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utilize the platform nobody knew at that

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time what it was going to become and the

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other part about Twitter different from

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uh Facebook or Flickr or uh Instagram

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what what whatever you wanted WhatsApp

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whatever you want to point the finger at

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it doesn't matter

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Twitter became an influential uh portal

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for people to spread information

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misinformation real information

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Influence People Bots uh automation AI

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that's what it grew into if Twitter

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disappeared today

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where would North Korea and China and

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uh use a a platform what platform would

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be there for them to have this kind of

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access to World influence it doesn't

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exist and that's what that's what Elon

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inherited I don't think he had any idea

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and those inside of Twitter over the

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years Susan they you know put Band-Aids

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on things and and tried to wrestle

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control of it but Elon didn't know going

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and uh that's that's the difference so I

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don't think Twitter will ever go away

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where else will China yeah or Iran right

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or or North Korea uh to keep their spy

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and Bot Army active uh to influence

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world events that platform doesn't exist

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it only happens on Twitter

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and you know I hate Twitter like it's my

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least favorite of all the social media

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connectivities I'll be real like it's

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I'm more of a visual person and also

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maybe a little bit too old for like uh

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for uh

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oh my God I'm such an old fart I'm like

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I forgot the name of the other one that

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I'm visually stimulated and like oh you

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know but like when I see all this text

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scrolling and it's you know like just I

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can't I can't get with the Twitter but

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yeah a lot of it's like one of the

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biggest platforms like out there uh but

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um where did you go Jimmy I love you I

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was adjusting the levels on

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on one of my uh computers going out

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um but you mentioned

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um we'll leave Twitter alone Twitter's

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not you know I don't anticipate uh

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Twitter going anywhere and I know a lot

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of people are

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get cuter or something do some

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yeah if you like it again please I'm

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usually behind all of Elon stuff like I

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am a fan of Elon okay I know he's a

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starseed and somebody else I was reading

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the chats over here I did mention that I

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thought he was on the Spectrum but I

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don't know if that's a fact or not and I

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didn't want to use the word Autistic or

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I didn't want to use as Burgers but

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um there is something about I used to

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work with a lot of kids on the Spectrum

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in school

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um and so he kind of reminds me of some

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of the kids that I used to

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um take care of after school or walk to

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and from classes and stuff like that you

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know you have some people that are like

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actual Geniuses because they're so like

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you know people are a little bit more on

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the Asperger's e-scale you know like

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they're just like just uh these

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brilliant Diamonds in the Rough but they

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just have no idea of like what social

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Dynamic is or how to be personable or

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how to read social cues and there's a

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bit of this like thing with him and I I

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find it endearing I'm not gonna lie like

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I might have a little crush on Elon I'm

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baby girl

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hey you know

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um and and I get that I get that uh the

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um uh I do I I fully understand it the

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um I like the weird ones

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him to focus on getting us to Mars and

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and focus on on SpaceX and and the leaps

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of of technology that he has made with

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that company and and and don't worry

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Twitter's gonna be there man just let

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somebody else run it nobody gives a crap

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I think he is gonna let somebody else

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run it he owns it for now because that's

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the next major elite in technology is

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like the connectivity through you know

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the internet you know that's like we're

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in the information age he's probably

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running a hub right now and he's getting

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all the Intel through Twitter you know

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just like you were saying governments do

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so maybe like having access to that in

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its full form is probably going to be

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beneficial to him in the long run you

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know I think also because there are a

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lot of other companies coming out right

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now like an electric game

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um my mom just bought stock on one from

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the the US like river river I don't know

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it's like some R names like Tech brand

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coming in for like cars and stuff and

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they're going to be all competition and

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soon that's going to be all over you

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know and that's the way you watch your

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competition is through these social

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media outlets and so that's how he's

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going to have the upper hand on all this

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game so I think that's the real reason

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why he acquired social media was so that

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he can you know push himself

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um to become you know bigger and better

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than his competition to keep eyes on the

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new things coming out and the politics

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behind all of it you know you're being

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too kind I think he bought Twitter

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oh uh be the world as I see myself and I

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I think he wants he wants to control the

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world with Skynet and uh Terminator uh

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T-1000 Bots at Androids that's that's my

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prediction but enough of Elon let's talk

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some parents turn into like a Black

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Mirror episode you are oh man

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well you just

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um a black mirror

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freaked me out there were there were

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times okay no speaking of freak out you

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you brought up under the skin let's

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let's back the car up for a second

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that movie uh which I watched a few

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times by the way

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um I thought was tremendous right and it

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was totally different in its concept

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made me uncomfortable

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oh really

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uncomfortable and uh the scenes where

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um where she's like walking in the water

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and you know the black in the

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voids these men into the void after her

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and and so here's the trippy thing okay

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so everybody it's Scarlett Johansson she

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plays in an alien uh the movie is called

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Under the Skin and as far as alien E.T

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movies go this is way

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in concept completely different than uh

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this isn't Steven Spielberg in E.T the

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actress terrestrial right this is this

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is not a happy fun movie but

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um but it is completely different and I

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got myself in this mindset Susan that

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maybe this is what E.T could be like

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and it it it's just an uncomfortable uh

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movie to watch it is you know like when

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post

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um signatures from some of the people

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that were in it because they didn't

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realize they were being filmed

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um there's this really dark scene I

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heard that like Scarlett Johansson she's

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in this van right and what would be a

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normally very terrifying situation for a

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woman to be in getting accosted by men

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trying to steal her out of a van I heard

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that like these were like legit

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scenarios that were happening

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um and like her having to keep face you

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know be like this is like you know like

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we're seeing like like hoodlums trying

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to like snatch a woman from her car and

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then having to approach people and like

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get like post written like consent forms

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and potentially pay them for the

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atrocity that they just did to make a

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feature film like imagine if that wasn't

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Scarlett Johansson imagine if that was

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just any other ordinary woman you know

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that didn't have cameras on her at the

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time I don't know if there's true this

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is something I heard you know I'm just

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saying but I heard that a lot of those

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scenes were not with actors and that um

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they had you know like they just put

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people on camera and like they just shot

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things and had her act like this like

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alien you know thing it was like which I

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thought was so brilliant because like if

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you're an alien you don't really

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understand the intentions Behind These

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in these people around you you know and

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so like you don't really feel the threat

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and you could see that in her actions

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right which is what I thought so

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brilliant because it's like when you're

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truly the Predator like even Predators

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smaller than you are not as scary

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um I thought that was really cool like

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the I mean that whole concept is awesome

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you know like it's just a great like

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alien like 18 movie and then and and

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she's a total sexual predator you know

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and that's like a succubus energy from

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outer space yeah and driving around

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looking for lonely single men and with

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this predatory

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uh mindset and you're it's just it's

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such an uncomfortable movie and and she

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gets these guys and then pulls them into

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that that other dimension and oh man

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such a heavy I'm glad that there's a

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movie like that that flips the script

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where it's like a woman could be a

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predator and take on these men you know

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because when we're so used to seeing

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movies like Maniac you know a POV movie

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where like a serial killer goes out and

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like you know takes all these women and

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kill them you know but then you have now

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we have like a different type of monster

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that like you know men are now on the

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pecking order of being victims as well

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which I thought was cool it's definitely

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kind of like a feminist alien movie like

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I I really loved that species was kind

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of like that too

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I just saw this comment okay this is uh

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for Monica she says it's true some

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scenes were the unknowing public

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yeah wow wow wow I I I I didn't know and

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you know what that adds to the anxiety

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that the movie gave me it was a real

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anxiety and the infrasounds too the

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soundtrack that they use you know like

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that real like guttural like vibration

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whenever she starts getting into this

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hunt mode

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um the use of sound was really amazing

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on that and so I I could appreciate that

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because I definitely use

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sounds to like access certain emotions

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in people and to like open third eyes

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and things like that so like when I when

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I see a movie that knows how to use

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these types of sounds to like get under

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you know a person's skin no pun intended

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you know to like force an emotion on

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them like I think that's really creative

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absolutely and uh the sorry I I

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I had to do that just for a quick second

497
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just to see something and here here's

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the other part about that movie I'm just

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I've never talked about under the skin

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on the air

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um the ending of the movie I'm not look

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everybody I'm not going to do it go and

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watch it it is it kind of ruins the

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ending when I talk about Elon Musk new I

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think he is but but here's the thing the

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ending of the movie

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without giving it away you kind of

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feel this empathy for her yeah after all

509
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of this bloodlust right all of this

510
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craziness and then you you know it's

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like uh am I am I really reversing

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course here and uh anyway uh go check it

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out it's uh it's a it's a movie that

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I've never discussed here on Fade to

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Black and it's one of my favorites

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um also uh Scarlett Johansson that was

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10 years ago so Scarlett was on the rise

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she wasn't Scarlett Johansson yet and

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that's a risky she would have never

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taken that role today there's just no

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way she would do that movie no no I

522
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think she might she would have I think

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this is the person that understands like

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a good art film you know

525
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man well but here's the thing

526
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right uh that came out in 2013. her

527
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first movie that I remember her in was a

528
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movie called Ghost World I love that

529
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movie it's one of my favorite uh the the

530
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scene with the the dancers from

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Bollywood

532
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right uh on the TV screen I went and got

533
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that movie from India I got the actual

534
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movie I ordered it

535
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um but uh that that introduced me to

536
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Scarlett Johansson and so I was like I

537
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mean she was so like like that girl that

538
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like kind of like edgy alternative girl

539
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next door that you have a crush on

540
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you're like oh she's cool you know she

541
00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:28,020
likes cooler [\h__\h] than me you know like

542
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that was kind of like the vibe she gave

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in the movie that was a movie was also

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with solidified my crush on like Steve

545
00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:37,020
Buscemi like I started had a crush with

546
00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:38,700
him like I I tell you I like the weird

547
00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:41,580
ones right so like Steve Buscemi like

548
00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:43,740
um my first like I was like oh my God

549
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,340
like in Airheads right like oh I love

550
00:24:51,169 --> 00:24:49,440
him in Airheads so much I was like gosh

551
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,179
I think here's the reason why I dated

552
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:53,039
rocker dudes like my whole life was

553
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:55,860
because of that movie Ghost World okay

554
00:25:00,350 --> 00:24:58,320
let me tell you and then he's like a sad

555
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,360
like nerd you know in Gross World

556
00:25:05,870 --> 00:25:02,720
getting kind of lured in by this like

557
00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:05,880
lolita-esque alt character you know and

558
00:25:12,529 --> 00:25:10,260
I love that movie yeah the um uh

559
00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:12,539
I can't believe we just went on this uh

560
00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:16,020
sideways thing but Ghost World uh when

561
00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:17,400
it came out

562
00:25:23,149 --> 00:25:21,059
uh so we're talking about 98-ish like

563
00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:23,159
right in there and I'm goofing around on

564
00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:25,860
DirecTV and and scrolling through and I

565
00:25:29,330 --> 00:25:27,480
see this you know Ghost World and I

566
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:29,340
click on that and I'm reading the

567
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,919
description and you know uh two

568
00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:33,840
actresses that I didn't know who they

569
00:25:38,930 --> 00:25:35,220
were

570
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,870
um so anyway I I took a chance on that I

571
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:43,919
knew nothing about the movie

572
00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:47,520
I now own both DVDs

573
00:25:54,289 --> 00:25:51,000
I own two of them uh I've watched it so

574
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,299
many times it was one of those gems uh

575
00:25:59,690 --> 00:25:57,360
that I have quoted uh so many lines from

576
00:26:02,289 --> 00:25:59,700
that movie you know

577
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:02,299
um you remember the um

578
00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:04,799
the the the

579
00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:08,100
um uh the manager the owner of the

580
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:11,700
7-Eleven right and and he turns to the

581
00:26:15,409 --> 00:26:14,400
muscle guy I can't remember his name and

582
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:15,419
he goes

583
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:18,240
Greeks invented philosophy

584
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,340
turn somebody goes he also invented

585
00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:22,320
homos

586
00:26:28,909 --> 00:26:24,659
line

587
00:26:31,610 --> 00:26:28,919
in the way that things were delivered I

588
00:26:33,169 --> 00:26:31,620
realized uh very quickly that this was

589
00:26:34,970 --> 00:26:33,179
going to be another like Fast Times at

590
00:26:38,409 --> 00:26:34,980
Ridgemont High like this was going to be

591
00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:38,419
a a movie that's going to last forever

592
00:26:42,830 --> 00:26:41,220
and I just fell in love with it and and

593
00:26:45,169 --> 00:26:42,840
that was my introduction to Scarlett

594
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:45,179
Johansson so when

595
00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:48,960
um uh Under the Skin came out and she's

596
00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:50,760
in it and you know I was watching her

597
00:26:54,649 --> 00:26:52,020
she you know her roles were getting

598
00:26:57,529 --> 00:26:54,659
bigger and bigger but an alien movie

599
00:27:00,769 --> 00:26:57,539
with Scarlett Johansson okay I'll watch

600
00:27:03,230 --> 00:27:00,779
that where she plays plays the alien and

601
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:03,240
then the whole thing rolled out it was

602
00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:07,200
like this Bloom house you know

603
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:10,940
um Friday night alien art alien

604
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:15,360
seduction film I would say it's more a24

605
00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:18,559
yeah yeah

606
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,260
right I feel like it's 8 24 Vibes you

607
00:27:25,610 --> 00:27:24,000
know which is one of my favorite Studios

608
00:27:27,529 --> 00:27:25,620
to put out any anything like if they're

609
00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:27,539
putting out anything I'm watching it I

610
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,580
also support Blum House wholeheartedly

611
00:27:35,090 --> 00:27:31,919
too they're doing all sorts of great

612
00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:35,100
like strides and horror but a24 is the

613
00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:37,799
weird art housy stuff speaking of movies

614
00:27:42,890 --> 00:27:39,419
like that I definitely recommend you

615
00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:42,900
watching a movie called men

616
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:46,020
um that movie is definitely like under

617
00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:49,919
the skin Vibes me it's a little like

618
00:27:53,390 --> 00:27:52,200
I think it's the same to I forget the

619
00:27:55,130 --> 00:27:53,400
name of the director but I want to say

620
00:27:58,610 --> 00:27:55,140
it's not the guy who did hereditary it's

621
00:28:02,390 --> 00:27:58,620
some other guy he did um he did uh

622
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:02,400
another great movie like uh

623
00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:05,760
with uh these people these women a group

624
00:28:10,490 --> 00:28:08,580
of scientific women go into like the

625
00:28:13,330 --> 00:28:10,500
Shimmer that's what it's called I'm like

626
00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:13,340
brain farting I know what oh that

627
00:28:17,769 --> 00:28:15,900
Annihilation so the director that did

628
00:28:21,169 --> 00:28:17,779
Annihilation to this movie called men

629
00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:21,179
and it's phenomenal it's absolutely one

630
00:28:25,549 --> 00:28:22,860
of my favorite movies that came out this

631
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:25,559
year it's top rock are you ready for

632
00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:29,520
this I watched Annihilation again

633
00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:31,320
two nights ago

634
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,020
of those things where

635
00:28:41,330 --> 00:28:39,600
um you know and that ending scene is

636
00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:41,340
very comparable to Under the Skin where

637
00:28:45,769 --> 00:28:43,080
the way that they depict this like

638
00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:45,779
extraterrestrial energy where it's just

639
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:48,360
like this human body that like it's like

640
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,460
almost like a star body you know and

641
00:28:56,029 --> 00:28:53,039
it's energy malleable energy that can

642
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,039
just like transform and transmute and

643
00:29:02,390 --> 00:28:58,320
expand and contract and like

644
00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:02,400
unfathomable ways right and so there is

645
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,400
like the main scientists at the end of

646
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:07,440
the movie where she's sitting you saw it

647
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,840
two nights ago so at the end she finds

648
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:12,240
Ground Zero first before the rest of the

649
00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:13,919
Sciences she's already sitting there

650
00:29:20,269 --> 00:29:16,260
looking straight into the abyss of this

651
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:20,279
energy and she's like unfathomable mind

652
00:29:26,750 --> 00:29:22,980
right and she's like in this create that

653
00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:26,760
is what it's like for real when you tap

654
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:30,539
into Dark Energy like from my experience

655
00:29:36,110 --> 00:29:34,200
and so I fell in love with that

656
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:36,120
character because I'm like I'm I'm like

657
00:29:41,149 --> 00:29:38,220
that that that character where it's like

658
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:41,159
you're she the entire movie She's Like

659
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:42,960
the head honcho of this whole operation

660
00:29:47,570 --> 00:29:45,840
but she's so like droney and like

661
00:29:49,070 --> 00:29:47,580
unexpressive and people just

662
00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:49,080
automatically don't like her character

663
00:29:52,970 --> 00:29:51,240
and it's because she's so unimpressed

664
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,980
with like her three-dimensional

665
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:55,440
day-to-day life and so she goes into the

666
00:30:01,730 --> 00:29:58,260
Shimmer and just becomes part of the

667
00:30:03,409 --> 00:30:01,740
unfathomable like chaos that is this

668
00:30:05,450 --> 00:30:03,419
energy you know and it's like that's

669
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:05,460
exactly what I would do you know like I

670
00:30:10,130 --> 00:30:07,919
was like peace out Earth I am whether

671
00:30:12,529 --> 00:30:10,140
this melts my face off or not I'm going

672
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:12,539
to the other side you know like peace

673
00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:15,840
you know you know yeah I tell you who

674
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,320
surprised me in Annihilation okay when I

675
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:21,120
watched annihilation

676
00:30:24,769 --> 00:30:23,279
I got to the end of the movie I came

677
00:30:27,289 --> 00:30:24,779
right on Fade to Black the next night

678
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:27,299
and said I watched this film last night

679
00:30:31,070 --> 00:30:29,100
Annihilation

680
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:31,080
um I thought it was one of the best uh

681
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:35,520
Alien uh E.T movies I have ever seen and

682
00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:38,880
Natalie Portman well a lot like under

683
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:41,159
the skin though uh Under the Skin was

684
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,120
excellent I mean like on point uh but uh

685
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,520
Natalie Portman blew my freaking mind

686
00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:49,679
you know exactly we all know she's great

687
00:30:55,570 --> 00:30:53,220
she was amazing in Annihilation and it's

688
00:31:00,289 --> 00:30:55,580
a great screenplay great graphics

689
00:31:02,090 --> 00:31:00,299
completely original concept and idea the

690
00:31:04,850 --> 00:31:02,100
whole cast was great by the way it was

691
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:04,860
it was it was a I think like pretty much

692
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:08,640
a Flawless movie so that my director did

693
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,760
this movie called men and I think you're

694
00:31:16,610 --> 00:31:13,760
gonna absolutely

695
00:31:18,370 --> 00:31:16,620
yeah so you saw like the end of the

696
00:31:23,470 --> 00:31:18,380
movie

697
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:23,480
out of this like um like male archetypes

698
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:26,880
stop giving away the movies

699
00:31:36,169 --> 00:31:30,360
people need to go and watch them just

700
00:31:39,889 --> 00:31:36,179
recommend it men men was uh uh it was

701
00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:39,899
amazing and I like see the thing is I I

702
00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:43,140
like Marvel I like the big Blockbusters

703
00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:45,779
you know and and and and I'll go and

704
00:31:51,470 --> 00:31:48,120
watch those I'm looking for the little

705
00:31:54,769 --> 00:31:51,480
kooky things right the things that are

706
00:31:57,610 --> 00:31:54,779
really well done by by a director and a

707
00:32:00,169 --> 00:31:57,620
writer that are out there Taking Chances

708
00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:00,179
and you know you know when when you

709
00:32:06,289 --> 00:32:02,940
become successful and it doesn't matter

710
00:32:08,510 --> 00:32:06,299
who you are right you get to a level and

711
00:32:11,149 --> 00:32:08,520
then you go to your age and you go man I

712
00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:11,159
just wanna I wanna challenge myself as

713
00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:13,980
an actor I'm gonna challenge myself as a

714
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,020
director I want to do that I mean you

715
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,200
know those are the they want to go back

716
00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:21,440
you know you go and you do Spider-Man

717
00:32:26,750 --> 00:32:23,880
and then they want to go back and do

718
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:26,760
something like under the skin and and

719
00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:28,980
and challenge themselves and those are

720
00:32:35,210 --> 00:32:31,980
the movies that I'm looking for yeah I

721
00:32:38,169 --> 00:32:35,220
mean I I have to disagree I I don't like

722
00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:38,179
Marvel movies I don't like that like

723
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,380
hero movies like I actually actually I

724
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:42,720
found they were more Charming like in

725
00:32:46,430 --> 00:32:44,580
actual

726
00:32:48,769 --> 00:32:46,440
um you know Comics there's something

727
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:48,779
about it I even felt like some of the

728
00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:50,760
comics were incredibly dark and even the

729
00:32:54,649 --> 00:32:52,740
art was dark and there was a lot of mood

730
00:32:57,889 --> 00:32:54,659
that was created

731
00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:57,899
um the only I guess this is more DC but

732
00:33:03,289 --> 00:33:00,659
the only like I guess that like I saw

733
00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:03,299
franchise that tried to like reconstruct

734
00:33:07,789 --> 00:33:05,940
the darkness that came from the comics

735
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,799
was like The Batman series and so that's

736
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:09,840
why you have so many different versions

737
00:33:14,810 --> 00:33:13,440
like Batman Returns the Batman which was

738
00:33:17,090 --> 00:33:14,820
the last one in so many different

739
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,100
variations of the Joker and his

740
00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:19,440
relationships but you know you see like

741
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,960
usually Marvel is like so big and so

742
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:24,480
glossy and so in your face but really

743
00:33:29,389 --> 00:33:26,100
like some of these Comics were really

744
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,399
dark and and like like deviated away

745
00:33:32,990 --> 00:33:30,960
from traditional art and like

746
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,000
conversation and I wanted to see that

747
00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:35,039
depicted in films and I feel like ah

748
00:33:41,149 --> 00:33:37,880
there became this like keep going

749
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:41,159
archetype of like uh the Cinematic

750
00:33:46,009 --> 00:33:44,279
experience right that all Marvel and

751
00:33:49,009 --> 00:33:46,019
they just wanted to just blow your face

752
00:33:51,049 --> 00:33:49,019
off with you know VFX and that they kind

753
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:51,059
of veered away from like getting the

754
00:33:55,549 --> 00:33:53,760
real Ambiance and thought and like mood

755
00:33:58,009 --> 00:33:55,559
of certain characters that I feel like

756
00:34:00,169 --> 00:33:58,019
was so obvious in the drawings from the

757
00:34:02,330 --> 00:34:00,179
comics and so that's why I think I

758
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:02,340
deviated from it a little bit but I I

759
00:34:07,370 --> 00:34:04,559
also do have a soft spot for Batman and

760
00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:07,380
I'm glad that there is like a whole

761
00:34:13,129 --> 00:34:10,980
um like Vibe with Batman that's like you

762
00:34:17,810 --> 00:34:13,139
know not seen with the Marvel Universe

763
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:17,820
what what I enjoy uh Marvel

764
00:34:24,889 --> 00:34:20,820
um it's always a a top-notch production

765
00:34:27,649 --> 00:34:24,899
right and then the big actors but what I

766
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,659
really enjoy about Marvel and they

767
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:29,280
started this well it's always kind of

768
00:34:35,210 --> 00:34:31,679
been there in the comic books but

769
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,220
um in the movies it's the science it's

770
00:34:41,570 --> 00:34:38,159
time travel it's portals it's extra

771
00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:41,580
dimensions and other dimensions and and

772
00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:46,139
I really enjoy that part of it the TV

773
00:34:51,050 --> 00:34:48,599
series that they did for uh love Pokey

774
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:51,060
it's called Loki all about time travel

775
00:34:54,589 --> 00:34:52,560
and that

776
00:34:56,810 --> 00:34:54,599
I'm waiting for season two to come out

777
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:56,820
they they they ended season one last

778
00:35:00,349 --> 00:34:58,260
year on a cliffhanger hopefully they're

779
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:00,359
gonna have a season two but it was about

780
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:03,839
the science of time travel and and I

781
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:07,680
really dig that about Marvel really pays

782
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:10,320
attention to the details uh when it

783
00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:13,560
comes to dealing with the science and

784
00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:16,380
you know when you watch Avengers uh end

785
00:35:22,849 --> 00:35:20,520
game and this idea of time travel and

786
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:22,859
and extra dimensions and the way that

787
00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:25,020
they suggested is and same thing in

788
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:27,900
doctor strange and and and so forth I

789
00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:30,480
think it's it's something that I really

790
00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:33,000
enjoy and it's always spot on so that's

791
00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:35,220
what I get out of them

792
00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:38,820
seed for alternative thinking but it

793
00:35:43,329 --> 00:35:40,859
also gives like

794
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:43,339
you know like the way that porn

795
00:35:49,130 --> 00:35:46,260
misrepresents sex you know I feel like

796
00:35:52,609 --> 00:35:49,140
Marvel misrepresents like certain things

797
00:35:55,490 --> 00:35:52,619
like portals you know and so I'm like

798
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:55,500
you think a portal is like this giant

799
00:35:59,390 --> 00:35:57,839
freaking Stargate that's like

800
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:59,400
you know and then you have to like

801
00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:01,680
molecularly deconstruct and reconstruct

802
00:36:06,530 --> 00:36:03,780
like I think time travel is something

803
00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:06,540
you do con with your Consciousness you

804
00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:09,300
know I think in reality if you can like

805
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,640
have an out of body experience and time

806
00:36:16,910 --> 00:36:14,160
travel that way I think that's closer to

807
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:16,920
reality you're closer to time traveling

808
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:19,680
and a sensory deprivation tank than you

809
00:36:24,829 --> 00:36:22,260
are walking through a Marvel Stargate

810
00:36:27,470 --> 00:36:24,839
you know have you have you done have you

811
00:36:30,410 --> 00:36:27,480
done that Century uh deprivation have

812
00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:30,420
you floated I have not but I have done a

813
00:36:35,770 --> 00:36:33,060
sensory deprivation in a dirt pit in

814
00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:35,780
Nottingham for like four hours

815
00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:39,660
you and I did the Estes right yeah

816
00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:42,660
that's that's like a sensory overload

817
00:36:45,710 --> 00:36:44,280
when you're listening to White Noise you

818
00:36:48,349 --> 00:36:45,720
know it's like the opposite and then you

819
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:48,359
kind of drone into like a hypnotic state

820
00:36:56,810 --> 00:36:49,680
you know

821
00:36:58,730 --> 00:36:56,820
to that uh then I would say like if time

822
00:37:00,890 --> 00:36:58,740
traveling is definitely a mental thing

823
00:37:02,829 --> 00:37:00,900
that could be accomplished not so much a

824
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:02,839
physical one you know

825
00:37:06,770 --> 00:37:04,440
when

826
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,780
um uh we were supposed to be talking

827
00:37:10,490 --> 00:37:08,880
about the art of the Seance and we'll do

828
00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:10,500
we'll deal with that

829
00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:12,540
um uh later on

830
00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:15,180
um that part of it though I just want to

831
00:37:18,109 --> 00:37:16,920
say I'm drinking wine with church

832
00:37:21,310 --> 00:37:18,119
tonight because they're talking about

833
00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:21,320
doing tequila which y'all are loose

834
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:24,060
hey this chat room doesn't work I'm

835
00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:25,500
trying to keep it classy with a glass of

836
00:37:30,829 --> 00:37:28,260
wine this guy's doing shots of tequila

837
00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:30,839
last night

838
00:37:36,829 --> 00:37:33,900
um I did a an abbreviated show last

839
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,839
night I just came in and and I was upset

840
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,359
about uh Twitter and Elon and everything

841
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,000
I just I let it all air out and then I

842
00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:44,400
just went off in the air you know what I

843
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:47,880
did I walked out of my bunker I went to

844
00:37:53,690 --> 00:37:52,079
my Dean Martin wet bar and I poured a

845
00:37:56,270 --> 00:37:53,700
shot of tequila which I never drink

846
00:37:59,390 --> 00:37:56,280
alone right I didn't even Dean Martin

847
00:38:02,750 --> 00:37:59,400
wet bar I have a I have a whole Dean

848
00:38:04,370 --> 00:38:02,760
Martin wet bar I I mean I'm going to see

849
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:04,380
this in person when I go to California

850
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,440
right in the studio and then we're gonna

851
00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:09,839
do a whole tour yeah the rock and roll

852
00:38:15,290 --> 00:38:13,020
merch and mems yeah we'll do all of that

853
00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:15,300
yeah Susan's going to be live in the

854
00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:17,220
studio uh

855
00:38:22,370 --> 00:38:19,859
uh the week of uh conscious life Expo

856
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:22,380
everybody well thanks for you know

857
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:24,660
letting the big surprise out uh Susan

858
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:27,839
you know ruin endings to movies I like

859
00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:29,400
I left out of the bag you know that's my

860
00:38:33,770 --> 00:38:32,520
Mo so and

861
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:33,780
um hold on

862
00:38:38,270 --> 00:38:35,040
okay

863
00:38:41,150 --> 00:38:38,280
so last night two shots of tequila after

864
00:38:45,710 --> 00:38:41,160
the show I was so upset man

865
00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:45,720
and so I did uh uh two shots

866
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:49,859
and it because I don't drink that often

867
00:38:53,630 --> 00:38:52,320
it was like two minutes I was like man

868
00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:53,640
I've

869
00:39:00,349 --> 00:38:56,760
I feel pretty good right I'm not so

870
00:39:02,890 --> 00:39:00,359
upset anymore and uh after taking a

871
00:39:06,170 --> 00:39:02,900
couple hits of The Joint you know yeah

872
00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:06,180
yeah I'm gonna be real I'm like a big

873
00:39:11,410 --> 00:39:09,180
I'm an advocate for marijuana so I I let

874
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:11,420
everyone know I'm a stoner right off rip

875
00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:14,400
about having a bad day like my brother

876
00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:15,720
my mother

877
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:18,540
my family they're just like Susan you

878
00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:20,400
haven't smoked today have you and I'm

879
00:39:26,450 --> 00:39:23,400
like you're absolutely right and then I

880
00:39:29,690 --> 00:39:26,460
fixed that real quick so what do you um

881
00:39:32,810 --> 00:39:29,700
what do you make of that where uh

882
00:39:43,609 --> 00:39:32,820
because pot is legal in in Most states

883
00:39:48,890 --> 00:39:45,650
for me to have that you know and so

884
00:39:51,170 --> 00:39:48,900
moving back to to Miami now it's

885
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:51,180
decriminalized but you know it's not you

886
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:52,800
know it's still kind of like if you have

887
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,720
an Old Timer here or there they're just

888
00:39:59,810 --> 00:39:57,119
like you know shunning you for smoking

889
00:40:03,349 --> 00:39:59,820
weed but I tell you this I suffer a lot

890
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:03,359
from you know insomnia I suffer a lot

891
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,440
from anxiety uh sometimes you know like

892
00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:09,599
uh if some people don't know me I'm like

893
00:40:13,550 --> 00:40:11,700
a hyper empathetic person like I'm

894
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:13,560
constantly walking around with like

895
00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:16,440
feelers out like like a sand enemy and I

896
00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:18,300
touch every energy around me and

897
00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:20,760
sometimes I need to just absolutely mute

898
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:22,260
that

899
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:25,440
um so an Antica helps with my sleep

900
00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:27,780
problems helps with like my you know

901
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:30,540
menstrual pains it helps with my over

902
00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:33,599
anxiousness and so I would rather

903
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:37,260
utilize marijuana and the energy of

904
00:40:42,050 --> 00:40:40,079
Shiva you know then take you know

905
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:42,060
pharmaceutical medication

906
00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:46,440
well okay Jimmy Church who's talking to

907
00:40:53,150 --> 00:40:49,380
me right now no it wasn't it do you

908
00:40:56,030 --> 00:40:53,160
deal at the edge of of weed has been

909
00:40:58,670 --> 00:40:56,040
taken off were before it was a challenge

910
00:41:00,650 --> 00:40:58,680
to go and get the pot it was illegal you

911
00:41:03,470 --> 00:41:00,660
were doing something against the man you

912
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:03,480
were getting the pot home and and you

913
00:41:08,930 --> 00:41:06,000
you couldn't let the smell out you had

914
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:08,940
to you know this whole now that that

915
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:12,240
that edge has been removed you can go

916
00:41:15,710 --> 00:41:14,040
down the street to a pot store and

917
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,720
you've got everything in front of you

918
00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:17,760
you could buy whatever you want and

919
00:41:21,470 --> 00:41:19,800
drive home and not worry about getting

920
00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:21,480
pulled over

921
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:24,420
um does that take the cool factor out of

922
00:41:29,450 --> 00:41:27,119
weed he's actually right now like the

923
00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:29,460
fact that if I go to La and I smoke weed

924
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:31,500
all of my friends in La don't even smoke

925
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:34,079
weed I'm like The Loner it's like so not

926
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:36,300
even a cool thing to do anymore and here

927
00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:38,940
I am right like an old fart like I smoke

928
00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:41,160
marijuana like a grandma now because

929
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,260
kids these days you know I'm still

930
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:45,599
packing a bowl and smoking a joint and

931
00:41:50,089 --> 00:41:46,859
kids these days they're like doing

932
00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:50,099
[\h__\h] dabs like if I did a dab like

933
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:53,160
I'd be out I'll do this the [\h__\h] kids

934
00:41:57,230 --> 00:41:54,900
are doing these days like I can't even

935
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:57,240
hang I didn't even I didn't even know

936
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:01,680
what that was it was about a year ago

937
00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:07,440
um and I happen to be uh around uh a

938
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,780
couple of uh college students uh

939
00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:11,760
boyfriend and girlfriend right and and

940
00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:12,900
we're at dinner

941
00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:15,660
and one of them says you know our friend

942
00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:18,420
blah blah blah you know doing too many

943
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:20,700
dabs you know it's starting to affect

944
00:42:25,069 --> 00:42:22,160
him I'm like

945
00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:25,079
I mean I'm eating going

946
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,420
what what was that damn and I'm thinking

947
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:29,760
to myself did did I just miss something

948
00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:31,800
and I didn't want to be the uncool

949
00:42:39,069 --> 00:42:34,680
person like what what'd you say what's

950
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:39,079
what's a dab but I did and then

951
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:44,160
oh no no now I haven't smoked weed I've

952
00:42:50,329 --> 00:42:47,599
been like wow you know what I might have

953
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:50,339
taken I'm so many incriminating things

954
00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:52,740
I'm not I'm not gonna pull it out I

955
00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:55,859
probably have taken two hits

956
00:43:01,609 --> 00:42:57,900
in the last

957
00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:01,619
10 years at different times that's it

958
00:43:06,170 --> 00:43:04,859
Edibles yeah yeah I've I mean haven't I

959
00:43:08,329 --> 00:43:06,180
smoked weed in front of you I feel like

960
00:43:10,490 --> 00:43:08,339
conscious yeah we might have gone

961
00:43:11,930 --> 00:43:10,500
outside and I'm here like yeah straight

962
00:43:14,030 --> 00:43:11,940
up walking up in front of you I feel

963
00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:14,040
like we've got that moment I I didn't I

964
00:43:20,089 --> 00:43:16,680
didn't want to say anything

965
00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:20,099
but um uh there was a moment okay I'll

966
00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:21,720
say this

967
00:43:27,470 --> 00:43:25,140
Susan and I we were alone

968
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:27,480
and I don't want to say where Susan so

969
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:30,480
let's not go into that I'm an open book

970
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:33,839
no no no no I'm just saying right I just

971
00:43:42,349 --> 00:43:36,540
I keep my life private but Susan and I

972
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:42,359
are out and and we we start and at one

973
00:43:45,410 --> 00:43:43,319
point

974
00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:45,420
there was no conversation about anything

975
00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:47,640
like this and at one point we crossed

976
00:43:52,849 --> 00:43:48,900
the Rubicon

977
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:52,859
and and and we both went wow

978
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:55,920
he's pretty cool he's pretty cool and we

979
00:44:02,630 --> 00:43:59,280
ended up having a great night but um but

980
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:02,640
yeah it's uh it's something that the

981
00:44:06,530 --> 00:44:03,720
edge

982
00:44:08,690 --> 00:44:06,540
of of it being you know something

983
00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:08,700
illegal and that you know you're going

984
00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:10,980
against the man and you're you're doing

985
00:44:17,089 --> 00:44:14,220
something that uh the the that uh the

986
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:17,099
public doesn't approve of and that's

987
00:44:22,970 --> 00:44:20,640
that's you're the rabble and now being a

988
00:44:24,890 --> 00:44:22,980
rebel is legal so you got to find

989
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:24,900
something else to be a rebel about

990
00:44:29,329 --> 00:44:27,839
I always like as I I heard somewhere

991
00:44:31,069 --> 00:44:29,339
when I was younger that the reason why

992
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:31,079
marijuana was illegal was because there

993
00:44:35,450 --> 00:44:32,880
was like a whole hemp industry with it

994
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,460
too and the cotton industry tried to

995
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:37,200
crush the hemp industry because they

996
00:44:41,390 --> 00:44:39,599
were trying to like win over the textile

997
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:41,400
community and so they're like if you

998
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,220
can't grow marijuana because if you

999
00:44:49,309 --> 00:44:47,040
smoke you get high you know like let's

1000
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:49,319
use that as our angle and then they like

1001
00:44:53,450 --> 00:44:51,900
put it down as like some crazy narcotic

1002
00:44:55,790 --> 00:44:53,460
you know while doctors are still

1003
00:44:57,710 --> 00:44:55,800
shooting cocaine into their patients you

1004
00:45:02,450 --> 00:44:57,720
know what I mean yeah yeah yeah he's

1005
00:45:04,910 --> 00:45:02,460
like oh my God this is nuts but um about

1006
00:45:07,609 --> 00:45:04,920
uh three years ago

1007
00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:07,619
uh I'm with a group of friends we're in

1008
00:45:11,450 --> 00:45:10,200
Palm Springs and brought in people from

1009
00:45:14,210 --> 00:45:11,460
around the country right we're having

1010
00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:14,220
this little thing and and uh we had a we

1011
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,140
rented this big house and there was like

1012
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:18,960
12 of us uh there in Palm Springs nice

1013
00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:22,319
nice mansion on this mountain top and I

1014
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:23,700
walked through we had this dining room

1015
00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:26,400
table that sat like 12 people or four

1016
00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:27,660
too big

1017
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,700
and it was covered with stuff and food

1018
00:45:34,250 --> 00:45:31,200
and I walked by and there's this

1019
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:34,260
chocolate bar this big sitting on the

1020
00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:37,680
thing and I'm oh okay and I opened it up

1021
00:45:43,130 --> 00:45:39,780
ripped off the tin foil broke off the

1022
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:43,140
end and yeah chew it you know and uh and

1023
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,880
I'm sitting outside and somebody comes

1024
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,800
out and goes

1025
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:49,440
who ate the chocolate bar

1026
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:51,960
and I go I did it was pretty good

1027
00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:54,000
how much did you eat I go what do you

1028
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:56,520
mean about that much I broke off the end

1029
00:46:01,730 --> 00:45:59,280
oh my god do you know how much edible

1030
00:46:04,750 --> 00:46:01,740
you just ate you just did like a hundred

1031
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:08,390
I was like uh uh

1032
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,119
uh what what'd you say and that that was

1033
00:46:17,089 --> 00:46:14,640
like an hour after I ate it all of a

1034
00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:17,099
sudden I was like oh man oh man oh man

1035
00:46:22,130 --> 00:46:20,040
I was high for like three days yeah I

1036
00:46:25,849 --> 00:46:22,140
did I can't eat weed I'll tell you that

1037
00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,859
if it really is too much I when you're

1038
00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:27,540
when you ingest it gets into your

1039
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:29,880
bloodstream that way through like oh

1040
00:46:36,589 --> 00:46:33,960
I've I've also OD'd on on Edibles too

1041
00:46:40,809 --> 00:46:36,599
her peanut butter peanut butter cookies

1042
00:46:44,270 --> 00:46:40,819
that my uh my aunt made for me

1043
00:46:46,490 --> 00:46:44,280
and then you know you think a cookie a

1044
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:46,500
cookie is like a portion right that's

1045
00:46:49,849 --> 00:46:48,180
what I think you know and I'm like

1046
00:46:52,609 --> 00:46:49,859
sometimes I eat two to three or four

1047
00:46:54,170 --> 00:46:52,619
Oreos at once you know no big deal yeah

1048
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:54,180
I know I was like I've been smoking weed

1049
00:46:59,390 --> 00:46:56,400
since I was like you know it didn't kid

1050
00:47:01,069 --> 00:46:59,400
and I not a kid I say that Loosely but I

1051
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,079
was like 15 the first time I smoked a

1052
00:47:04,370 --> 00:47:02,880
joint and then I was like oh yeah I've

1053
00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:04,380
been smoking like whatever I could eat

1054
00:47:08,930 --> 00:47:07,260
one of these cookies no problem and I

1055
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:08,940
ate a whole cookie

1056
00:47:14,089 --> 00:47:11,700
and then all of a sudden like I just had

1057
00:47:16,569 --> 00:47:14,099
a real like I felt like gravity turned

1058
00:47:20,210 --> 00:47:16,579
on times a thousand and I was just like

1059
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,220
OMG like walking was really hard getting

1060
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,800
up was really hard and then if I moved

1061
00:47:27,050 --> 00:47:24,960
too quick I got nauseous and I just like

1062
00:47:28,849 --> 00:47:27,060
ended up throwing up all night I

1063
00:47:30,650 --> 00:47:28,859
couldn't leave my bed it was like the

1064
00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:30,660
worst experience and then I was like

1065
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:32,760
okay maybe that was a bad first time I'm

1066
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,380
gonna dose it I'm gonna take like

1067
00:47:38,329 --> 00:47:36,000
something from the dispensary that I

1068
00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:38,339
know how much is in what and then I was

1069
00:47:42,890 --> 00:47:40,380
like all right well I'm gonna do like 10

1070
00:47:47,170 --> 00:47:42,900
you know 10 is like a low-key number no

1071
00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:47,180
it is not not for Susan yeah

1072
00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:51,000
anything about like a four like and I

1073
00:47:54,170 --> 00:47:52,260
don't even do that I was like I'd rather

1074
00:47:56,930 --> 00:47:54,180
smoke it I know how long it's gonna last

1075
00:47:59,150 --> 00:47:56,940
like if I do that and and it's all good

1076
00:48:01,370 --> 00:47:59,160
in the hood but and even then sometimes

1077
00:48:03,349 --> 00:48:01,380
I like even though I'm like sometimes I

1078
00:48:04,910 --> 00:48:03,359
go days or a whole week without smoking

1079
00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:04,920
weed that's when I get cranky you know

1080
00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:06,540
that's when people like call me out on

1081
00:48:11,809 --> 00:48:07,380
it

1082
00:48:14,750 --> 00:48:11,819
how did we how did we get here well that

1083
00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:14,760
chocolate so that night it's you know

1084
00:48:20,089 --> 00:48:17,700
it's like eight hours later and and I'm

1085
00:48:22,970 --> 00:48:20,099
I'm trying to go to I can't but I

1086
00:48:25,250 --> 00:48:22,980
finally do and I woke up in the morning

1087
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:25,260
and I opened up my eyes and I said to

1088
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:26,460
myself

1089
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:30,180
I wonder if I'm still high and I sat up

1090
00:48:37,730 --> 00:48:34,319
on the uh on the bed oh man

1091
00:48:40,550 --> 00:48:37,740
I'm higher than when I went to bed and

1092
00:48:42,530 --> 00:48:40,560
it was it was yeah it took me about when

1093
00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:42,540
you wake up hi too that's another trip

1094
00:48:48,050 --> 00:48:45,060
as well it took me like two days to get

1095
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:51,710
um what I wanted to ask you about

1096
00:48:59,630 --> 00:48:55,140
um you you mentioned portals um and and

1097
00:49:02,809 --> 00:48:59,640
what about uh meditation and and astral

1098
00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:02,819
aspects to this whether it's an out of

1099
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:07,579
body or astral travel do you officially

1100
00:49:13,450 --> 00:49:11,160
treat that as as time travel if there's

1101
00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:13,460
an element in it

1102
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:17,160
I had you know a lot of what I talk

1103
00:49:21,290 --> 00:49:19,140
about is based off of my own personal

1104
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,300
experience you know I I will talk about

1105
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:23,040
things I've heard of and I let people

1106
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,200
know about that that I've heard of it or

1107
00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:27,119
a person that I know had that experience

1108
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:31,500
but in my experience I had a moment only

1109
00:49:35,630 --> 00:49:33,119
once ever

1110
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:35,640
um when I actually saw my energetic body

1111
00:49:40,910 --> 00:49:39,119
like in its full form and that's where I

1112
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,920
was like oh yeah this reminded me a lot

1113
00:49:44,809 --> 00:49:42,720
of like

1114
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,819
um like like that movie we were just

1115
00:49:48,589 --> 00:49:46,319
talking about like when she like opens

1116
00:49:50,690 --> 00:49:48,599
up her you know the the human skin and

1117
00:49:52,849 --> 00:49:50,700
what's underneath is like the celestial

1118
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,859
being and

1119
00:49:58,089 --> 00:49:55,200
um and that was like a real eye-opening

1120
00:50:00,530 --> 00:49:58,099
situation where I literally like I had

1121
00:50:01,970 --> 00:50:00,540
opened or I thought it had opened my

1122
00:50:04,970 --> 00:50:01,980
eyes because I had such an intense

1123
00:50:07,309 --> 00:50:04,980
feeling it almost felt like

1124
00:50:10,550 --> 00:50:07,319
um long story short I had experienced

1125
00:50:12,170 --> 00:50:10,560
like a Kundalini Awakening experience

1126
00:50:15,050 --> 00:50:12,180
right

1127
00:50:19,370 --> 00:50:15,060
um that was induced by a lot of Shadow

1128
00:50:20,569 --> 00:50:19,380
work trauma and hallucinogens and so I

1129
00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:20,579
ended up

1130
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:22,500
um like kind of coming out of that

1131
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,839
period and be like okay I need to get

1132
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:26,720
away from like

1133
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:30,240
relying on plant medicines to connect

1134
00:50:34,730 --> 00:50:32,700
with other beings and start trying to

1135
00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:34,740
find that Within Myself you know what I

1136
00:50:41,329 --> 00:50:37,859
mean so I took a step away from like

1137
00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:41,339
doing my shamanic rituals and to to

1138
00:50:47,329 --> 00:50:44,760
focusing hard on my meditations and

1139
00:50:50,510 --> 00:50:47,339
being like I can get there without the

1140
00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:50,520
help of like a substance not that I I'm

1141
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:52,200
very grateful for the lessons I learned

1142
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:53,940
on those substances and I still do them

1143
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,880
sometimes but like when I started going

1144
00:51:00,470 --> 00:50:58,800
in to myself I just wanted to feel like

1145
00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:00,480
the power was within me and that I

1146
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:01,920
didn't have to rely on something else it

1147
00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:03,839
was just something integral I needed for

1148
00:51:08,750 --> 00:51:06,540
me so I started really going in on the

1149
00:51:11,930 --> 00:51:08,760
Transcendental Meditation you know

1150
00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:11,940
method and I was doing that every day

1151
00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:16,140
twice a day for um 20 minutes and then I

1152
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,180
started implementing different practices

1153
00:51:23,569 --> 00:51:21,119
in the TM which is not recommended and

1154
00:51:26,270 --> 00:51:23,579
they tell you not to do that and so not

1155
00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:26,280
to go away from that my my teachers at

1156
00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:28,440
the Tia am I'm doing something they told

1157
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:30,660
me not to do and what

1158
00:51:37,549 --> 00:51:34,980
um just go I started implementing like

1159
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:37,559
um like chronic breathing into it like

1160
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,540
you know breathing in one and out one

1161
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,520
and just kind of doing this where you

1162
00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:43,440
start feeling like you're building like

1163
00:51:48,049 --> 00:51:46,380
a circular you know system within

1164
00:51:50,450 --> 00:51:48,059
yourself while you're doing the TM

1165
00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:50,460
method and then when I started feeling

1166
00:51:55,549 --> 00:51:52,740
like that wheel was going you know

1167
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:55,559
within me through the breathing then I

1168
00:52:00,589 --> 00:51:58,140
started focusing on like a chant or a

1169
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:00,599
deep hum like a Bellow within my core

1170
00:52:06,049 --> 00:52:03,359
you know because I was like oh what if I

1171
00:52:07,849 --> 00:52:06,059
take this chronic breathing and make it

1172
00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:07,859
like this circular breathing so I was

1173
00:52:12,829 --> 00:52:10,200
doing this way more than the 20 minutes

1174
00:52:14,809 --> 00:52:12,839
that was recommended right so I started

1175
00:52:17,210 --> 00:52:14,819
doing this you know chronic in and out

1176
00:52:19,250 --> 00:52:17,220
of the nose like you know

1177
00:52:21,530 --> 00:52:19,260
um and so as I started feeling like I

1178
00:52:25,130 --> 00:52:21,540
was building this circle system within

1179
00:52:28,490 --> 00:52:25,140
my myself then I was like all right now

1180
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:28,500
let's punch it in the Middle with like a

1181
00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:30,960
deep like solar plexus hum from my

1182
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:33,660
diaphragm and I just went

1183
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:35,599
like

1184
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:38,700
as deep as I could for as long as I

1185
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:42,180
could and then when I lost my breath and

1186
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:45,000
I just it just something hit me like all

1187
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,319
of a sudden like

1188
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:47,760
I just

1189
00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:50,940
I lost a sense of physical self and then

1190
00:52:55,549 --> 00:52:53,940
I had opened my eyes what I thought you

1191
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,559
know because I felt like it was like a

1192
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,480
wind came over me and then all of a

1193
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:00,000
sudden I wasn't in a physical place and

1194
00:53:04,609 --> 00:53:01,920
then I opened my eyes because I was like

1195
00:53:06,290 --> 00:53:04,619
oh let me like maybe I need to get out

1196
00:53:08,089 --> 00:53:06,300
of meditation now or something you know

1197
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:08,099
and when I opened my eyes I saw my

1198
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,319
Celestial body like when I looked at my

1199
00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:12,000
hands and I looked down at my lap it was

1200
00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:14,940
still like a point a POV of me looking

1201
00:53:22,670 --> 00:53:19,260
at my body but it was this uh blacker

1202
00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:22,680
than black abyss of a being like it was

1203
00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:23,960
um

1204
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:27,000
lack of light it was like a pure

1205
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:31,440
darkness and I had like this silver halo

1206
00:53:36,109 --> 00:53:33,660
around me like

1207
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,119
and when I looked at myself like like

1208
00:53:43,730 --> 00:53:39,359
that I said oh this is my true being

1209
00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:43,740
this is my higher self this is how I

1210
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:46,140
communicate to beings on the other side

1211
00:53:52,130 --> 00:53:49,380
and this is how they see me when I come

1212
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,140
in and out of like whether I do my

1213
00:53:56,510 --> 00:53:54,960
readings or my seances or my rituals or

1214
00:53:58,849 --> 00:53:56,520
things like that you know I was like

1215
00:54:00,290 --> 00:53:58,859
this is the energetic being like and I

1216
00:54:03,710 --> 00:54:00,300
had seen

1217
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:03,720
things like this my entire life

1218
00:54:08,809 --> 00:54:07,140
like shadow figures

1219
00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:08,819
um you know when I was a child things

1220
00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:11,220
visiting me in my room looking like

1221
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,500
black dark Silhouettes like like how I

1222
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:16,800
look right now and I was like this is my

1223
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,440
energetic body like this is me like I

1224
00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:22,079
could transcend physical things with

1225
00:54:27,950 --> 00:54:25,260
this you know and so when I saw that it

1226
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,960
was just it was like I came to terms

1227
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:29,520
with my true self

1228
00:54:37,609 --> 00:54:35,280
I I felt like I've met me in a much

1229
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:37,619
bigger plane so like a lot of people

1230
00:54:40,670 --> 00:54:39,599
talk about their higher selves you know

1231
00:54:43,010 --> 00:54:40,680
like

1232
00:54:45,170 --> 00:54:43,020
um how do you connect your your psychic

1233
00:54:47,870 --> 00:54:45,180
intuition like you know and I is like oh

1234
00:54:50,450 --> 00:54:47,880
it's through this being and once I met

1235
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:50,460
that version of myself you know on an

1236
00:54:54,049 --> 00:54:52,319
alternate plane you know that I was like

1237
00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:54,059
okay

1238
00:54:58,010 --> 00:54:54,839
um

1239
00:54:59,329 --> 00:54:58,020
I I call it my dark body you know and

1240
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,339
and when I say that it doesn't

1241
00:55:04,670 --> 00:55:01,680
necessarily mean it's like a negative

1242
00:55:07,730 --> 00:55:04,680
thing but I definitely feel like my

1243
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:07,740
energy resonates on a level of the light

1244
00:55:14,450 --> 00:55:10,559
spectrum that is like so incredibly deep

1245
00:55:17,450 --> 00:55:14,460
and long voided you know the opposite of

1246
00:55:20,089 --> 00:55:17,460
ultraviolet you know like in deeper than

1247
00:55:21,890 --> 00:55:20,099
infrared it was so incredibly dark and

1248
00:55:23,630 --> 00:55:21,900
it has a Paranormal Investigator you

1249
00:55:25,370 --> 00:55:23,640
learn about the light spectrums as you

1250
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:25,380
start using all this gear and cameras

1251
00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:26,640
and stuff like that and you start

1252
00:55:30,890 --> 00:55:28,140
understanding

1253
00:55:33,710 --> 00:55:30,900
um how light affects you know

1254
00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:33,720
Consciousness you know people use you

1255
00:55:37,849 --> 00:55:35,880
know infrared lights and red lights to

1256
00:55:41,630 --> 00:55:37,859
tap into

1257
00:55:43,609 --> 00:55:41,640
um you know your your malleable brain to

1258
00:55:44,809 --> 00:55:43,619
hypnotize you you know what I mean and

1259
00:55:51,049 --> 00:55:44,819
so

1260
00:55:53,870 --> 00:55:51,059
of things you know in my rituals to

1261
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:53,880
connect with that energy my my dark

1262
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:56,640
being so that I could transcend my

1263
00:56:01,970 --> 00:55:59,280
physical body to tap into other sides

1264
00:56:04,970 --> 00:56:01,980
and that was like the first lesson that

1265
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:04,980
I had when I started really getting into

1266
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,220
my mixed medium meditations as I like to

1267
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:09,839
call it

1268
00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:12,720
um and so I also you know like I said

1269
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:15,540
had met a lot of these other types of

1270
00:56:20,809 --> 00:56:18,720
beings through uh you know

1271
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:20,819
utilizing plant medicines and things

1272
00:56:26,270 --> 00:56:24,000
like that that kind of like shoot you

1273
00:56:28,430 --> 00:56:26,280
into that you know

1274
00:56:31,549 --> 00:56:28,440
um but like I like now I don't feel like

1275
00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:31,559
I need to access the other side via

1276
00:56:35,150 --> 00:56:33,300
plant medicine anymore because now I

1277
00:56:36,589 --> 00:56:35,160
feel like I have it within me and a part

1278
00:56:38,450 --> 00:56:36,599
of me likes to argue the fact that

1279
00:56:41,450 --> 00:56:38,460
because I had ingested some of these

1280
00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:41,460
things that it kind of metabolized

1281
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:44,040
within me and became part of my DNA and

1282
00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:46,380
that's why I was able to do this

1283
00:56:53,150 --> 00:56:49,260
so I'm not condoning

1284
00:56:55,309 --> 00:56:53,160
people right right well it made this was

1285
00:56:57,470 --> 00:56:55,319
my path and I always like to step into

1286
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:57,480
the darkness I'm like I always like to

1287
00:57:03,230 --> 00:57:00,960
push the boundaries on my psyche and you

1288
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,240
know my body and my spirit and that's

1289
00:57:07,690 --> 00:57:05,520
something that like I get a lot of [\h__\h]

1290
00:57:11,630 --> 00:57:07,700
for to be honest

1291
00:57:15,650 --> 00:57:11,640
excuse me Susan the plants uh helped you

1292
00:57:17,809 --> 00:57:15,660
uh open up the circuit yes no and and so

1293
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:17,819
once that was completed you don't need

1294
00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:19,500
it anymore and you understand the

1295
00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:22,440
process and and the and the circuit is

1296
00:57:27,490 --> 00:57:24,839
is there and and it's just waiting to to

1297
00:57:30,910 --> 00:57:27,500
be turned on

1298
00:57:35,329 --> 00:57:30,920
I think so you know but I also felt like

1299
00:57:37,790 --> 00:57:35,339
I had a connectivity with other beings

1300
00:57:39,950 --> 00:57:37,800
in the other side and and energies and

1301
00:57:41,450 --> 00:57:39,960
people and everything around me since I

1302
00:57:42,829 --> 00:57:41,460
was younger I just didn't know how to

1303
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,839
access it

1304
00:57:46,790 --> 00:57:44,640
um so I feel like it was already within

1305
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:46,800
me I just needed those plant teachers

1306
00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:49,200
you know to kind of help guide me in the

1307
00:57:54,010 --> 00:57:52,980
right direction and I overcame a fear of

1308
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,020
like

1309
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:56,400
confronting it on my own I guess you

1310
00:58:01,609 --> 00:58:00,240
could say you know and so I was totally

1311
00:58:03,290 --> 00:58:01,619
alone when this happened usually when

1312
00:58:04,730 --> 00:58:03,300
I'm doing plant medicines I'm with a

1313
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:04,740
group of other people we make it a

1314
00:58:08,750 --> 00:58:06,240
ritual we're having a whole day of it

1315
00:58:11,210 --> 00:58:08,760
and I'm you know surrounded with a tribe

1316
00:58:12,650 --> 00:58:11,220
of people I love and trust you know and

1317
00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:12,660
you know although I've done things where

1318
00:58:18,109 --> 00:58:16,020
it's like I've always had really great

1319
00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:18,119
trips too

1320
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:21,480
um hold on hold on hold on before we go

1321
00:58:25,549 --> 00:58:24,000
off in into that direction were you

1322
00:58:29,150 --> 00:58:25,559
surprised

1323
00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:29,160
when you look down and you see the vanta

1324
00:58:34,730 --> 00:58:31,980
Black version of yourself

1325
00:58:36,589 --> 00:58:34,740
what did what did that do were you

1326
00:58:44,450 --> 00:58:36,599
shocked were you surprised how did you

1327
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:47,450
and it made me feel connected on a much

1328
00:58:51,770 --> 00:58:49,920
deeper level outside of this planet you

1329
00:58:53,569 --> 00:58:51,780
know what I mean

1330
00:58:56,089 --> 00:58:53,579
um because I've always considered myself

1331
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,099
a very terrestrial being you know I was

1332
00:59:01,309 --> 00:58:58,559
like oh if alien like if if an asteroid

1333
00:59:04,010 --> 00:59:01,319
were to come and hit this planet right

1334
00:59:06,770 --> 00:59:04,020
and I had the choice to live the rest of

1335
00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:06,780
my life on the moon or Mars by going on

1336
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:10,140
a spaceship you know or stay on planet

1337
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:11,760
Earth I was like I'm going out with the

1338
00:59:16,490 --> 00:59:13,440
planet you know like this is my mother

1339
00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:16,500
this is my terrestrial home like I love

1340
00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:17,940
this planet I'm gonna go out with

1341
00:59:22,430 --> 00:59:20,099
everything else on it you know

1342
00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:22,440
and so when I I always felt this like

1343
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deep connection with like animals and

1344
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:28,020
nature and things like that you know and

1345
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:30,839
so when I saw this like Venta Black

1346
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:33,119
Version like you said version of myself

1347
00:59:39,230 --> 00:59:36,480
like I was like oh I'm part of the

1348
00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:39,240
universe like I'm also bigger than this

1349
00:59:45,170 --> 00:59:42,540
planet like I am the great Abyss I am

1350
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:45,180
all the stars I am all the black holes

1351
00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:48,559
you know what I mean and it was such a

1352
00:59:54,849 --> 00:59:53,160
macro Cosmic awareness of self that was

1353
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:54,859
like

1354
01:00:01,250 --> 00:59:58,799
so stimulating and and learning how to

1355
01:00:03,170 --> 01:00:01,260
touch into that again was like that's

1356
01:00:06,049 --> 01:00:03,180
where I cut that's where I started

1357
01:00:09,530 --> 01:00:06,059
veering into a different direction with

1358
01:00:12,589 --> 01:00:09,540
my spiritual awareness and in my career

1359
01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:12,599
as you know a Paranormal Investigator

1360
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:15,599
and a spiritual person it changed my

1361
01:00:20,329 --> 01:00:17,760
trajectory a little bit

1362
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:20,339
um and so I as you see now I'm doing

1363
01:00:24,829 --> 01:00:22,799
more things like conscious life you know

1364
01:00:27,410 --> 01:00:24,839
than doing things like seances and

1365
01:00:29,569 --> 01:00:27,420
getting into spiritualism and less going

1366
01:00:31,789 --> 01:00:29,579
out there with gear trying to capture

1367
01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:31,799
evidence you know because I feel like

1368
01:00:35,809 --> 01:00:33,839
I've kind of graduated from having to

1369
01:00:39,950 --> 01:00:35,819
prove that things exist

1370
01:00:42,349 --> 01:00:39,960
to like knowing things exist and tapping

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01:00:44,930 --> 01:00:42,359
into that you know like

1372
01:00:47,630 --> 01:00:44,940
it's like

1373
01:00:49,549 --> 01:00:47,640
living with a wild cat you know it's

1374
01:00:51,650 --> 01:00:49,559
like you know that either Tigers out

1375
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:51,660
there and you probably love tigers

1376
01:00:56,030 --> 01:00:53,760
because you live you know somewhere that

1377
01:00:58,250 --> 01:00:56,040
doesn't have tigers is probably a bad

1378
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:58,260
analogy but now you have a tiger living

1379
01:01:03,470 --> 01:01:00,960
and loving you and feeding you and

1380
01:01:06,049 --> 01:01:03,480
cuddling you every night and it's not

1381
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:06,059
something you have to prove or fear

1382
01:01:12,890 --> 01:01:09,359
exists you know like it's there and now

1383
01:01:14,630 --> 01:01:12,900
it's like how do you coexist with this

1384
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:14,640
monster and this beast and become

1385
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:18,000
friends with it and and you know utilize

1386
01:01:22,329 --> 01:01:20,160
it and and use it to help yourself and

1387
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:22,339
to help others and to spread awareness

1388
01:01:27,470 --> 01:01:24,900
you know and so that's where I'm at

1389
01:01:29,150 --> 01:01:27,480
right now in my phase of the world let's

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let's take our break right here our

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1466
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am your host Jimmy church and uh oh wait

1467
01:04:59,150 --> 01:04:55,799
a minute boom there I am our guest

1468
01:05:01,789 --> 01:04:59,160
tonight Susan Slaughter and uh I was

1469
01:05:03,950 --> 01:05:01,799
just listening uh Susan to uh the

1470
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commercial there and of course we're

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going to be uh uh both at uh the

1472
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:10,559
conscious life Expo again this year and

1473
01:05:15,470 --> 01:05:12,660
uh you're gonna be doing amongst other

1474
01:05:17,210 --> 01:05:15,480
things but uh tonight we're going to be

1475
01:05:19,730 --> 01:05:17,220
talking about the art of the Seance and

1476
01:05:21,829 --> 01:05:19,740
you're gonna do this not once twice

1477
01:05:25,250 --> 01:05:21,839
three times how many seances are you

1478
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:25,260
going to do I'll be facilitating three

1479
01:05:30,490 --> 01:05:27,359
seances that weekend

1480
01:05:32,030 --> 01:05:30,500
so it's gonna be a doozy

1481
01:05:39,230 --> 01:05:32,040
how

1482
01:05:43,609 --> 01:05:39,240
start off with this because

1483
01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:43,619
I think so much of this uh picture a

1484
01:05:49,849 --> 01:05:46,500
seance from like a 1950s black and white

1485
01:05:53,210 --> 01:05:49,859
movie right right in the table shaking

1486
01:05:55,490 --> 01:05:53,220
and and uh you know some ectoplasm

1487
01:05:58,010 --> 01:05:55,500
whatever

1488
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:58,020
um uh is is that a say answer what is a

1489
01:06:06,650 --> 01:05:59,280
seance

1490
01:06:09,650 --> 01:06:06,660
was coined you know by the French you

1491
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:09,660
know but it's been doing

1492
01:06:14,030 --> 01:06:11,760
it's been a thing since like early

1493
01:06:16,849 --> 01:06:14,040
civilizations to connect with your

1494
01:06:19,910 --> 01:06:16,859
ancestors people from the other side you

1495
01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:19,920
know departed loved ones Gods you know

1496
01:06:24,289 --> 01:06:22,380
extraterrestrials

1497
01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:24,299
um so I think the big misconception is

1498
01:06:30,230 --> 01:06:27,480
that uh Seance is only for ghosts and

1499
01:06:33,950 --> 01:06:30,240
departed people and that's really not

1500
01:06:34,609 --> 01:06:33,960
the case like it's a way to access you

1501
01:06:37,309 --> 01:06:34,619
know

1502
01:06:40,670 --> 01:06:37,319
um other dimensional beings that include

1503
01:06:44,029 --> 01:06:40,680
Spirits as well you know of people but

1504
01:06:46,750 --> 01:06:44,039
um I like to open the communication to

1505
01:06:48,770 --> 01:06:46,760
all of the above you know Angels demons

1506
01:06:52,609 --> 01:06:48,780
extraterrestrials your higher higher

1507
01:06:55,849 --> 01:06:52,619
self you know departed loved ones

1508
01:06:58,849 --> 01:06:55,859
um maybe you know the consciousness of

1509
01:07:01,490 --> 01:06:58,859
other people that you can access these

1510
01:07:04,329 --> 01:07:01,500
things through Seance and so it's kind

1511
01:07:07,010 --> 01:07:04,339
of opening um a psychic connection

1512
01:07:08,809 --> 01:07:07,020
between everybody and I think more

1513
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:08,819
powerful than doing it by yourself is

1514
01:07:14,750 --> 01:07:12,720
the more people that you can do

1515
01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:14,760
um these psychic experiments with the

1516
01:07:19,250 --> 01:07:16,799
more powerful your beacon becomes and

1517
01:07:21,970 --> 01:07:19,260
you turn into this giant Spotlight or

1518
01:07:25,490 --> 01:07:21,980
Vortex for last lack of a better term

1519
01:07:27,650 --> 01:07:25,500
for energies to come through but it's

1520
01:07:31,309 --> 01:07:27,660
truly through the power of yourself and

1521
01:07:33,230 --> 01:07:31,319
your own psychic ability so what I do

1522
01:07:35,690 --> 01:07:33,240
first is to

1523
01:07:37,609 --> 01:07:35,700
um I mean each Seance is a doozy like I

1524
01:07:39,410 --> 01:07:37,619
said it's not like a one-hour and done

1525
01:07:42,349 --> 01:07:39,420
thing so I tell people anyone coming to

1526
01:07:43,130 --> 01:07:42,359
the Seance be ready to spend at least at

1527
01:07:47,930 --> 01:07:43,140
least

1528
01:07:49,789 --> 01:07:47,940
two hours with me now what's up help me

1529
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:49,799
understand we'll get under the Seance

1530
01:07:56,809 --> 01:07:53,280
part uh uh more in just a bit but what's

1531
01:07:59,930 --> 01:07:56,819
the setup you know because the normal

1532
01:08:02,210 --> 01:07:59,940
Vision that I have of the Seance is a is

1533
01:08:06,670 --> 01:08:02,220
a table with five or six people at it

1534
01:08:09,289 --> 01:08:06,680
and somebody with a crystal ball right

1535
01:08:11,150 --> 01:08:09,299
we definitely utilize some of your

1536
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:11,160
traditional tools that you're familiar

1537
01:08:15,170 --> 01:08:13,140
with like a Ouija board

1538
01:08:17,630 --> 01:08:15,180
um or spirit board

1539
01:08:21,530 --> 01:08:17,640
um I utilize pendulums and scrying

1540
01:08:24,289 --> 01:08:21,540
boards and I do um a gallery talk where

1541
01:08:26,450 --> 01:08:24,299
I go into

1542
01:08:29,150 --> 01:08:26,460
um my favorite method of trans

1543
01:08:32,209 --> 01:08:29,160
communication and so I do that and I do

1544
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:32,219
a gallery reading where I speak through

1545
01:08:38,090 --> 01:08:36,480
either forms of possession or

1546
01:08:39,950 --> 01:08:38,100
um I just allow myself to become a

1547
01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:39,960
vessel for any energies that weren't

1548
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:41,880
able to come through the board to come

1549
01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:43,920
through me

1550
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:46,500
um and so how many how many people in

1551
01:08:50,150 --> 01:08:48,000
the audience

1552
01:08:53,809 --> 01:08:50,160
so it's very limited

1553
01:08:57,050 --> 01:08:53,819
um each Seance is limited to six people

1554
01:09:00,349 --> 01:08:57,060
at the table and then 10 people on the

1555
01:09:03,169 --> 01:09:00,359
Outer Circle as I call it okay

1556
01:09:06,110 --> 01:09:03,179
um so it is intimate it is it's not a

1557
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:06,120
home of 600 people oh no no no right

1558
01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:08,400
right right I take it very seriously so

1559
01:09:11,749 --> 01:09:10,140
I have to keep it real I mean to be

1560
01:09:14,510 --> 01:09:11,759
honest like

1561
01:09:18,169 --> 01:09:14,520
um the Outer Circle is something that

1562
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:18,179
I'm incorporating now because I mean I

1563
01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:20,880
can only have six people Max at a actual

1564
01:09:25,010 --> 01:09:22,920
Seance table that people are utilizing

1565
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:25,020
the tools

1566
01:09:29,150 --> 01:09:26,940
um are they're getting the tickets

1567
01:09:30,829 --> 01:09:29,160
specifically to do that

1568
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,839
um then I open it up to the gallery

1569
01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:32,640
reading because and then that's when I

1570
01:09:36,410 --> 01:09:33,900
do the

1571
01:09:37,849 --> 01:09:36,420
it's some possession happens sometimes

1572
01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:37,859
sometimes it doesn't but I open myself

1573
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:39,779
up as a vessel to like

1574
01:09:42,829 --> 01:09:41,520
speak for

1575
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:42,839
um the energies that didn't get the

1576
01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:45,359
chance to come through the physical

1577
01:09:51,050 --> 01:09:47,580
um mediums like the pendulums and the

1578
01:09:53,809 --> 01:09:51,060
scrying and the the spirit board now I'm

1579
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:53,819
I'm definitely uh

1580
01:09:58,430 --> 01:09:56,880
uh gonna be attending one of these I

1581
01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:58,440
think you should

1582
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,920
oh whoa uh have I ever let you down with

1583
01:10:06,110 --> 01:10:03,840
any of the events you've attended no no

1584
01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:06,120
no no no that's like all the dark Zone

1585
01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:10,260
stuff we've done man we've had uh not

1586
01:10:15,530 --> 01:10:12,080
only so much fun but some pretty

1587
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:15,540
extraordinary uh things

1588
01:10:22,090 --> 01:10:19,679
um have gone down you know um one

1589
01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:22,100
um and I I think about this all the time

1590
01:10:30,649 --> 01:10:27,000
uh when you and I were in the tunnel

1591
01:10:35,149 --> 01:10:30,659
um underneath the uh police station yeah

1592
01:10:38,030 --> 01:10:35,159
um and we were doing EVPs right and now

1593
01:10:40,810 --> 01:10:38,040
I uh I've messed around with it before

1594
01:10:44,090 --> 01:10:40,820
but never had you know anything go down

1595
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,100
we I mean okay so we are in everybody

1596
01:10:48,890 --> 01:10:46,800
we're in a dark tunnel it's a tunnel

1597
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:48,900
it's a tunnel and there were these files

1598
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:52,560
uh evidence boxes uh on one side but

1599
01:10:57,649 --> 01:10:55,199
it's this long tunnel probably I don't

1600
01:10:59,930 --> 01:10:57,659
know if it was 50 yards long but you

1601
01:11:02,990 --> 01:10:59,940
know 30 you know 100 feet it was it was

1602
01:11:07,130 --> 01:11:03,000
a and and dark so we're down there and

1603
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:07,140
there's three of us uh Susan myself and

1604
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:11,280
the column yeah yeah was it what I think

1605
01:11:17,570 --> 01:11:15,120
so yes yes running the recorder right

1606
01:11:19,970 --> 01:11:17,580
and so we're asking questions and then

1607
01:11:22,910 --> 01:11:19,980
we we're going silent

1608
01:11:27,770 --> 01:11:22,920
for 15 seconds and then listening to the

1609
01:11:29,570 --> 01:11:27,780
recorder man the voice I could not

1610
01:11:33,050 --> 01:11:29,580
believe

1611
01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:33,060
uh and here's the thing everybody we see

1612
01:11:39,169 --> 01:11:35,940
we see EVPs all the time on TV and what

1613
01:11:43,970 --> 01:11:39,179
it's a whole nother game

1614
01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:43,980
when it's you and you know the silence

1615
01:11:48,410 --> 01:11:46,140
you know you know the questions being

1616
01:11:51,050 --> 01:11:48,420
asked you know who was there you know

1617
01:11:54,530 --> 01:11:51,060
what's going on and you hear a voice

1618
01:11:57,470 --> 01:11:54,540
come across the the recorder like that

1619
01:12:01,070 --> 01:11:57,480
my my mind was blown I I just couldn't

1620
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,080
believe how loud it was and and you hear

1621
01:12:07,550 --> 01:12:04,080
our voices in the recording right and

1622
01:12:10,610 --> 01:12:07,560
that EVP came through it nearly as loud

1623
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:10,620
as our voices in that tunnel that was

1624
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:12,960
mind-blowing mind-blowing thing to to

1625
01:12:19,010 --> 01:12:15,840
experience I I saw a lot of really great

1626
01:12:22,189 --> 01:12:19,020
EVPs on that investigation so just a

1627
01:12:24,130 --> 01:12:22,199
little bit of a so I one of the founders

1628
01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:24,140
of the dark zone so you go to the

1629
01:12:29,890 --> 01:12:27,480
darkzone.tv and um you'll see one of our

1630
01:12:33,050 --> 01:12:29,900
honorable mentions is definitely Jimmy

1631
01:12:35,149 --> 01:12:33,060
and Jimmy has been coming on all of our

1632
01:12:37,490 --> 01:12:35,159
dark Zone investigations with us uh

1633
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:37,500
we've done the Queen Mary which was also

1634
01:12:43,250 --> 01:12:39,840
really epic and then the LA Police

1635
01:12:46,250 --> 01:12:43,260
Museum was really epic as well like very

1636
01:12:48,770 --> 01:12:46,260
active location and so I feel like

1637
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:48,780
you've seen me in my element you've seen

1638
01:12:54,649 --> 01:12:51,600
like how we investigate and and I like

1639
01:12:57,770 --> 01:12:54,659
to bring people from all over the field

1640
01:13:00,649 --> 01:12:57,780
in I don't care if you're on a another

1641
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:00,659
show that you know is battling mine for

1642
01:13:04,669 --> 01:13:03,120
Ratings you know like I bring in all I'm

1643
01:13:06,290 --> 01:13:04,679
like all about the camaraderie in the

1644
01:13:08,570 --> 01:13:06,300
field and so of course you know I bring

1645
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:08,580
in investigators from all of the shows

1646
01:13:14,090 --> 01:13:12,000
all of the teams everywhere you know and

1647
01:13:15,649 --> 01:13:14,100
I think that it's led to like some of

1648
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,659
the best investigations I've ever been

1649
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:17,040
on you know when you're working with all

1650
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:18,239
these people that are like so

1651
01:13:21,950 --> 01:13:20,159
knowledgeable in the field bringing in

1652
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:21,960
all their year that we get to play with

1653
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:24,000
and then also utilizing different

1654
01:13:27,950 --> 01:13:26,159
methods you know of investigation and

1655
01:13:29,330 --> 01:13:27,960
like bringing it all together it's been

1656
01:13:31,370 --> 01:13:29,340
really awesome because sometimes when

1657
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:31,380
you work on a team they have their

1658
01:13:34,250 --> 01:13:33,120
methods and you kind of get pigeonholed

1659
01:13:35,810 --> 01:13:34,260
to do things a certain way that's

1660
01:13:38,270 --> 01:13:35,820
definitely where I came from with Ghost

1661
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,280
Hunters you know God forbid I am a witch

1662
01:13:43,490 --> 01:13:40,640
or a psychic on a strictly

1663
01:13:46,729 --> 01:13:43,500
evidence-based team you know if I if I'm

1664
01:13:49,250 --> 01:13:46,739
an intuitive on that team I get shunned

1665
01:13:50,570 --> 01:13:49,260
you know and so I obviously had to be

1666
01:13:52,430 --> 01:13:50,580
very like

1667
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:52,440
um you know very skeptical about

1668
01:13:56,750 --> 01:13:54,480
everything but I definitely allowed my

1669
01:13:59,209 --> 01:13:56,760
intuition to guide me into places you

1670
01:14:01,310 --> 01:13:59,219
know and the guy who founded you know

1671
01:14:02,990 --> 01:14:01,320
the dark Zone Jay bloomke he was a

1672
01:14:05,870 --> 01:14:03,000
producer on ghost hunters and Ghost

1673
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:05,880
Hunters International and he was like I

1674
01:14:09,290 --> 01:14:07,679
want to do this thing and I think you

1675
01:14:10,970 --> 01:14:09,300
need to be a part of this and he took

1676
01:14:13,250 --> 01:14:10,980
his favorite people from all the

1677
01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:13,260
paranormal shows that he's worked on and

1678
01:14:17,930 --> 01:14:16,260
we created this super group that invites

1679
01:14:19,310 --> 01:14:17,940
everyone to investigate with us and so

1680
01:14:22,370 --> 01:14:19,320
that's what the dark sun was and we

1681
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:25,189
um and long story short we have a uh you

1682
01:14:30,050 --> 01:14:26,880
know she does a lot of field producing

1683
01:14:33,950 --> 01:14:30,060
for us which is Kristen Augustin she's

1684
01:14:35,450 --> 01:14:33,960
great and so uh Christine she is the

1685
01:14:36,770 --> 01:14:35,460
reason why I'm at conscious life Expo

1686
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,780
because she's the coordinator for

1687
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:39,120
conscious life and she has seen me

1688
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,199
progress and because I finally had the

1689
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:45,840
um you know a production in the

1690
01:14:49,790 --> 01:14:47,280
Paranormal field that allowed me to be

1691
01:14:51,950 --> 01:14:49,800
my authentic self you know where she saw

1692
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:51,960
me be an intuitive investigator she saw

1693
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:54,239
me bring in ritual and practice and

1694
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:56,640
things like that and she's like I think

1695
01:15:02,750 --> 01:15:00,480
you need to open yourself up to the idea

1696
01:15:04,669 --> 01:15:02,760
of doing conscious life because the

1697
01:15:06,350 --> 01:15:04,679
types of things that I do she thought

1698
01:15:10,570 --> 01:15:06,360
would be interesting even though it's a

1699
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:10,580
little off brand for conscious life

1700
01:15:15,649 --> 01:15:12,960
a little bit you know I'm like the dark

1701
01:15:18,490 --> 01:15:15,659
child yeah I feel like everyone's little

1702
01:15:21,530 --> 01:15:18,500
Wednesday at conscience

1703
01:15:34,189 --> 01:15:21,540
you know what that was a TV series by

1704
01:15:40,490 --> 01:15:37,850
was so good in Wednesday and I'm so

1705
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,500
happy to see that the cramps have broken

1706
01:15:47,390 --> 01:15:42,960
into the mainstream man you know what I

1707
01:15:49,250 --> 01:15:47,400
mean like like yes you know it was like

1708
01:15:51,050 --> 01:15:49,260
like my little punk rock I've like I

1709
01:15:52,610 --> 01:15:51,060
don't care like I want to corrupt every

1710
01:15:53,990 --> 01:15:52,620
child I was like go down the road of the

1711
01:15:57,850 --> 01:15:54,000
cramps learn everything you need to know

1712
01:16:01,310 --> 01:15:57,860
about them and don't be like them

1713
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:01,320
but don't go down I was watching the way

1714
01:16:09,250 --> 01:16:04,560
that um uh obviously she takes Direction

1715
01:16:12,590 --> 01:16:09,260
really well yeah so she had this stoic

1716
01:16:15,890 --> 01:16:12,600
intelligent gaze all the time

1717
01:16:18,590 --> 01:16:15,900
um which is much more difficult to do

1718
01:16:20,810 --> 01:16:18,600
than speaking your lines right she's

1719
01:16:24,229 --> 01:16:20,820
speaking with her face and with her eyes

1720
01:16:26,270 --> 01:16:24,239
um but uh the the series was really good

1721
01:16:27,250 --> 01:16:26,280
I I watched that whole thing in one

1722
01:16:29,570 --> 01:16:27,260
night

1723
01:16:32,750 --> 01:16:29,580
that she said there's a lot of these

1724
01:16:34,669 --> 01:16:32,760
little like uh like little gothy

1725
01:16:37,310 --> 01:16:34,679
breadcrumbs that are like little

1726
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:37,320
throwaway lines that certain characters

1727
01:16:42,229 --> 01:16:39,840
say and I just like oh that's so good I

1728
01:16:43,550 --> 01:16:42,239
love it you know and like

1729
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:43,560
um you know it's just like you obviously

1730
01:16:48,530 --> 01:16:46,080
if you know goth culture then you really

1731
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:48,540
like find those breadcrumbs in this

1732
01:16:52,490 --> 01:16:49,920
series and I thought that was the most

1733
01:16:55,729 --> 01:16:52,500
entertaining thing the only critique I

1734
01:16:58,130 --> 01:16:55,739
have is I'm so sick of this teeny bopper

1735
01:17:00,350 --> 01:16:58,140
storyline that revolves around boys and

1736
01:17:03,290 --> 01:17:00,360
a school [\h__\h] dance like I'm over it

1737
01:17:06,110 --> 01:17:03,300
all right like that narrative needs to

1738
01:17:09,310 --> 01:17:06,120
[\h__\h] yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they

1739
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:09,320
you know once it was done in Cary in

1740
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:10,880
1975

1741
01:17:15,770 --> 01:17:13,679
we've we've seen it right we've seen it

1742
01:17:17,810 --> 01:17:15,780
it's been done like every single

1743
01:17:19,610 --> 01:17:17,820
American horror film has like revolved

1744
01:17:22,970 --> 01:17:19,620
around that even like another one that I

1745
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:22,980
really loved I loved the Sabrina um the

1746
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:24,480
chilling Adventures of Sabrina on

1747
01:17:27,950 --> 01:17:26,159
Netflix as well that was like a great

1748
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:27,960
one I loved that they went this whole

1749
01:17:34,189 --> 01:17:30,960
satanic route and like they brought

1750
01:17:35,209 --> 01:17:34,199
forth like in a really like PG way all

1751
01:17:37,970 --> 01:17:35,219
the like

1752
01:17:39,709 --> 01:17:37,980
satanic religious things you know and

1753
01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:39,719
again little bread crumbs for the

1754
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:41,280
occultist in me you know I'm just like

1755
01:17:46,250 --> 01:17:43,679
oh I love that but again you know it's

1756
01:17:48,169 --> 01:17:46,260
like this whole Coming of Age Story and

1757
01:17:49,850 --> 01:17:48,179
there's this whole High School drama and

1758
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:49,860
like it's like oh my God and you have

1759
01:17:54,410 --> 01:17:51,600
that in Harry Potter but Harry Potter

1760
01:17:56,450 --> 01:17:54,420
was a little bit more Dynamic you know

1761
01:17:58,669 --> 01:17:56,460
but it's like I love all those things

1762
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,679
and I love all these little gothy

1763
01:18:03,229 --> 01:18:00,960
subculture Coming of Age stories because

1764
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:03,239
obviously I want to see myself in all of

1765
01:18:10,130 --> 01:18:04,560
it

1766
01:18:12,649 --> 01:18:10,140
out is all and um they need to find a

1767
01:18:15,229 --> 01:18:12,659
different narrative to wrap all these

1768
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:15,239
Concepts around outside of a [\h__\h]

1769
01:18:21,410 --> 01:18:18,719
high school and a dance did you uh did

1770
01:18:27,169 --> 01:18:21,420
you go okay let's back up for a second

1771
01:18:29,870 --> 01:18:27,179
yes uh what you do now which is you know

1772
01:18:32,510 --> 01:18:29,880
you know a Sans and an intuitive uh you

1773
01:18:36,169 --> 01:18:32,520
know Ghost Hunter a witch uh you deal

1774
01:18:40,189 --> 01:18:36,179
with the occult uh tarot cards and and

1775
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:40,199
scrying mirrors and and and things uh

1776
01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:43,679
what was that you when you were 12 did

1777
01:18:49,310 --> 01:18:47,400
you have those gifts uh at that age were

1778
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:49,320
you a Wednesday

1779
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:53,040
I did have those gifts and

1780
01:18:57,950 --> 01:18:54,960
um I grew up the daughter of another

1781
01:19:01,490 --> 01:18:57,960
witch so I grew up knowing about these

1782
01:19:05,149 --> 01:19:01,500
things and my first Ouija board my first

1783
01:19:07,550 --> 01:19:05,159
K2 meter my first Tarot deck came from

1784
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:07,560
you know my father

1785
01:19:16,430 --> 01:19:11,360
um my father also you know is well known

1786
01:19:19,790 --> 01:19:16,440
in you know the occults and witch and

1787
01:19:22,729 --> 01:19:19,800
Pagan Society by being like the first

1788
01:19:25,250 --> 01:19:22,739
person to like fight for the right to

1789
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:25,260
have a pentacle on their headstone at

1790
01:19:31,310 --> 01:19:28,320
Arlington National Cemetery so he kind

1791
01:19:32,750 --> 01:19:31,320
of made well I keep using the term he

1792
01:19:34,910 --> 01:19:32,760
because people understand when I'm

1793
01:19:37,370 --> 01:19:34,920
talking about my father a patriarch blah

1794
01:19:39,169 --> 01:19:37,380
blah blah my father transitioned so I

1795
01:19:42,770 --> 01:19:39,179
have a transparent so my father

1796
01:19:47,149 --> 01:19:42,780
eventually became a mother you know

1797
01:19:49,689 --> 01:19:47,159
figure so as a woman when she trans you

1798
01:19:52,850 --> 01:19:49,699
know musicians into a woman

1799
01:19:54,530 --> 01:19:52,860
she you know she decided to change her

1800
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:54,540
whole identity

1801
01:19:59,630 --> 01:19:56,400
um and as well as her spiritual beliefs

1802
01:20:01,850 --> 01:19:59,640
so she had you know a hard time fitting

1803
01:20:04,250 --> 01:20:01,860
in as a person in the lgbtq plus

1804
01:20:06,350 --> 01:20:04,260
Community you know in places like

1805
01:20:08,270 --> 01:20:06,360
churches you know where

1806
01:20:10,010 --> 01:20:08,280
um maybe there was this one night where

1807
01:20:12,590 --> 01:20:10,020
they would have like a queer church

1808
01:20:15,530 --> 01:20:12,600
night and even then she didn't really

1809
01:20:18,050 --> 01:20:15,540
fit in because like she even though it

1810
01:20:18,830 --> 01:20:18,060
was queer in a sense wasn't like you

1811
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:18,840
know

1812
01:20:24,350 --> 01:20:22,800
people who weren't like oh transgendered

1813
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:24,360
person that was really really rare

1814
01:20:27,649 --> 01:20:25,760
because certain

1815
01:20:28,850 --> 01:20:27,659
procedures were legal in the United

1816
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:28,860
States she had to get a lot of her

1817
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:30,960
surgeries done in Canada and elsewhere

1818
01:20:33,950 --> 01:20:33,120
what year what year

1819
01:20:36,830 --> 01:20:33,960
um

1820
01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:36,840
this she started transitioning I'm not

1821
01:20:40,970 --> 01:20:38,400
exactly sure the year but around the

1822
01:20:44,750 --> 01:20:40,980
time I was like

1823
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:44,760
six or seven fully transitioned as a

1824
01:20:51,890 --> 01:20:46,800
woman to like by the time I was like 10

1825
01:20:56,270 --> 01:20:51,900
or 11. wow holy crap so you know I was

1826
01:20:58,370 --> 01:20:56,280
raised in real Blazer Trailblazer so

1827
01:21:01,790 --> 01:20:58,380
yeah and then she also you know

1828
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:01,800
remarried to a man and so that was like

1829
01:21:05,810 --> 01:21:03,600
a loophole to also and that was another

1830
01:21:08,689 --> 01:21:05,820
thing because she had identified as a

1831
01:21:12,290 --> 01:21:08,699
woman her whole life being with my mom

1832
01:21:14,689 --> 01:21:12,300
she felt gay but now being like with a

1833
01:21:16,250 --> 01:21:14,699
man she felt normal you know as a woman

1834
01:21:17,630 --> 01:21:16,260
it's a whole thing that's why I think

1835
01:21:19,729 --> 01:21:17,640
there's the whole psychology behind it

1836
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:19,739
right yeah that's a whole nother that

1837
01:21:26,209 --> 01:21:22,400
doesn't get talked about a lot so

1838
01:21:30,890 --> 01:21:26,219
what is that what is the wife I mean you

1839
01:21:34,430 --> 01:21:30,900
know how are her feelings if that was

1840
01:21:37,250 --> 01:21:34,440
going on this whole time you know how

1841
01:21:38,870 --> 01:21:37,260
does the wife feel in a situation like

1842
01:21:41,330 --> 01:21:38,880
that you know we always talk about the

1843
01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:41,340
and and our concern and we should you

1844
01:21:45,950 --> 01:21:44,400
know with those that transition okay but

1845
01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:45,960
what about the other half of that

1846
01:21:51,050 --> 01:21:49,080
marriage you know I just want to point

1847
01:21:53,330 --> 01:21:51,060
out Gypsy Rose just asked me if people

1848
01:21:55,729 --> 01:21:53,340
mistake me for a witch and I was like I

1849
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:55,739
hope they see me as well that's exactly

1850
01:22:00,590 --> 01:21:57,840
what I am

1851
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:00,600
um so anyway so it was really hard for

1852
01:22:05,209 --> 01:22:03,120
her and as and I'll tell you this like

1853
01:22:07,070 --> 01:22:05,219
she when she transitioned

1854
01:22:09,890 --> 01:22:07,080
um she didn't want people to know that

1855
01:22:11,870 --> 01:22:09,900
she was in a transitioned woman you know

1856
01:22:13,850 --> 01:22:11,880
what I mean so she lived her life

1857
01:22:16,250 --> 01:22:13,860
authentically as a woman married to a

1858
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,260
man and people had no idea she was my

1859
01:22:21,410 --> 01:22:19,679
father you know so what we the story we

1860
01:22:24,590 --> 01:22:21,420
came up with was that she was my

1861
01:22:26,570 --> 01:22:24,600
father's twin brother or twin sister you

1862
01:22:28,669 --> 01:22:26,580
know so that there were like fraternal

1863
01:22:30,350 --> 01:22:28,679
twins and that's why they look so alike

1864
01:22:34,370 --> 01:22:30,360
and that was the story that we went with

1865
01:22:37,130 --> 01:22:34,380
so she was my aunt and um I mean but you

1866
01:22:40,250 --> 01:22:37,140
know obviously our family knew about our

1867
01:22:44,270 --> 01:22:40,260
immediate family so my mom remarried to

1868
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:44,280
a French Buddhist and my transition mom

1869
01:22:50,270 --> 01:22:47,280
my father married to

1870
01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:50,280
um a Vietnam veteran who was the head of

1871
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:52,800
the the Green Berets his special ops

1872
01:22:58,970 --> 01:22:56,880
like hardcore like war hero he was like

1873
01:23:01,490 --> 01:22:58,980
if you know anything about Rambo is

1874
01:23:05,870 --> 01:23:01,500
based on like a real person in a platoon

1875
01:23:08,270 --> 01:23:05,880
that my other stepdad was the captain of

1876
01:23:11,630 --> 01:23:08,280
there's whole books written about that

1877
01:23:13,790 --> 01:23:11,640
what kind of things war hero and all

1878
01:23:17,870 --> 01:23:13,800
sorts of crazy [\h__\h] what kind of

1879
01:23:19,610 --> 01:23:17,880
Thanksgiving dinners do you guys have

1880
01:23:22,010 --> 01:23:19,620
um I mean we'd get together as a family

1881
01:23:24,649 --> 01:23:22,020
but I've I've actively like mixed

1882
01:23:28,010 --> 01:23:24,659
Thanksgiving completely from my I don't

1883
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:28,020
know what I'm saying man but we would

1884
01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:30,239
get so everyone was best friends because

1885
01:23:36,169 --> 01:23:33,840
my stepdad on that married my biological

1886
01:23:39,910 --> 01:23:36,179
mother was a pilot in the army

1887
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:39,920
and then my other stepdad was a captain

1888
01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:43,199
in Special Forces like you know what I

1889
01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:46,800
mean they had this military Bond and

1890
01:23:51,470 --> 01:23:49,199
they were like super best friends and so

1891
01:23:53,870 --> 01:23:51,480
all my parents I was raised by four

1892
01:23:57,709 --> 01:23:53,880
total weirdos

1893
01:23:59,390 --> 01:23:57,719
um and so Jan who's the my father who

1894
01:24:01,490 --> 01:23:59,400
transitioned

1895
01:24:02,810 --> 01:24:01,500
um she you know eventually started

1896
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:02,820
joining

1897
01:24:08,689 --> 01:24:05,280
um the unit the Unitarian Universalist

1898
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:08,699
churches and then she found her tribe

1899
01:24:14,229 --> 01:24:12,480
there you know with classic Wicca like

1900
01:24:18,410 --> 01:24:14,239
witches

1901
01:24:21,770 --> 01:24:18,420
and so she joined a coven and became a

1902
01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:21,780
high priestess of that coven and so in

1903
01:24:27,770 --> 01:24:25,020
my early years like when I was 12 you

1904
01:24:30,290 --> 01:24:27,780
know she started writing books and

1905
01:24:32,570 --> 01:24:30,300
keeping like you know how to keep a book

1906
01:24:35,090 --> 01:24:32,580
of shadows and things like that anyway

1907
01:24:36,890 --> 01:24:35,100
so she has a plot at Arlington National

1908
01:24:38,990 --> 01:24:36,900
Cemetery because she wanted to be buried

1909
01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:39,000
with her husband who is buried there as

1910
01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:43,260
a war hero and she refused that well she

1911
01:24:48,530 --> 01:24:46,800
fought along like for a lot of people so

1912
01:24:51,709 --> 01:24:48,540
not only does she fight for the right to

1913
01:24:54,290 --> 01:24:51,719
wear a pentacle as the sign of her faith

1914
01:24:56,750 --> 01:24:54,300
on The Headstone she's the first person

1915
01:24:58,430 --> 01:24:56,760
to ever have that on her headstone in

1916
01:25:00,649 --> 01:24:58,440
the states in the United States of

1917
01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:00,659
America on top of that at the Arlington

1918
01:25:06,290 --> 01:25:03,840
National Cemetery so every year witches

1919
01:25:08,810 --> 01:25:06,300
go there and like commemorate her grave

1920
01:25:10,669 --> 01:25:08,820
which is like very like emotionally like

1921
01:25:11,140 --> 01:25:10,679
I go there like March you know as around

1922
01:25:12,410 --> 01:25:11,150
the time

1923
01:25:15,950 --> 01:25:12,420
[Music]

1924
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:15,960
um that they go like early March and so

1925
01:25:22,490 --> 01:25:19,679
not only that she had a huge and so this

1926
01:25:26,030 --> 01:25:22,500
is another thing like she had a huge

1927
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:26,040
like friendship with a whole group of

1928
01:25:32,450 --> 01:25:29,520
Muslims in her neighborhood and so she

1929
01:25:35,209 --> 01:25:32,460
fought to also you know

1930
01:25:37,010 --> 01:25:35,219
um show their emblems as well like on

1931
01:25:39,229 --> 01:25:37,020
the headstones and then eventually it

1932
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:39,239
started you know she eventually is the

1933
01:25:43,970 --> 01:25:42,239
reason why you can be represented by any

1934
01:25:46,250 --> 01:25:43,980
faith you want United States of America

1935
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:46,260
on your headstone and so she's like the

1936
01:25:51,350 --> 01:25:48,000
purveyor of that and it had to be a

1937
01:25:52,910 --> 01:25:51,360
witch right so she's known for that

1938
01:25:55,790 --> 01:25:52,920
um so I'm definitely my father's

1939
01:25:57,470 --> 01:25:55,800
daughter you know and I kind of see I

1940
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,480
feel like when she passed away past the

1941
01:26:02,870 --> 01:25:59,520
Baton to me a little bit has become like

1942
01:26:06,649 --> 01:26:02,880
my spirit guide and so um a lot of the

1943
01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:06,659
tools that I use like my tarot the Ouija

1944
01:26:15,470 --> 01:26:07,920
board

1945
01:26:18,850 --> 01:26:15,480
um my dowsing rods my pendulums my K2

1946
01:26:21,470 --> 01:26:18,860
meters they were all given to me by her

1947
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,480
and you know that's you know when I was

1948
01:26:25,490 --> 01:26:23,280
seeing things in my room when I was

1949
01:26:27,229 --> 01:26:25,500
having these encounters you know with

1950
01:26:29,030 --> 01:26:27,239
like I don't know extra dimensional

1951
01:26:30,890 --> 01:26:29,040
beings or ghosts like I didn't know what

1952
01:26:33,050 --> 01:26:30,900
they were like from such an early age

1953
01:26:36,410 --> 01:26:33,060
you know she was the one that handed me

1954
01:26:38,030 --> 01:26:36,420
a K2 meter and said hey if you turn this

1955
01:26:40,250 --> 01:26:38,040
on and you're seeing something in a room

1956
01:26:42,169 --> 01:26:40,260
and if you turn this on the meter goes

1957
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,179
then you could corroborate that this

1958
01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:44,400
meter is also seeing something like you

1959
01:26:48,050 --> 01:26:46,800
so she introduced me to the idea of

1960
01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:48,060
using

1961
01:26:52,430 --> 01:26:50,400
you know gear to corroborate my

1962
01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:52,440
experiences and I think that's what led

1963
01:26:57,229 --> 01:26:54,420
me down the road to being a paranormal

1964
01:26:59,750 --> 01:26:57,239
investigator and then

1965
01:27:01,189 --> 01:26:59,760
um and that that's that's that was you

1966
01:27:03,709 --> 01:27:01,199
know you know you know what's amazing

1967
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:03,719
this is like the best show ever and and

1968
01:27:07,850 --> 01:27:05,760
I love you so much and and and we're

1969
01:27:10,669 --> 01:27:07,860
such great friends but

1970
01:27:12,410 --> 01:27:10,679
um I always knew I didn't know because

1971
01:27:15,890 --> 01:27:12,420
the things that I'm finding out right

1972
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:15,900
now I never knew and that's that's why I

1973
01:27:24,290 --> 01:27:20,000
do this show right but I always knew

1974
01:27:27,709 --> 01:27:24,300
that uh there was this thing about you

1975
01:27:29,290 --> 01:27:27,719
in in my head where I was going Susan's

1976
01:27:32,270 --> 01:27:29,300
legit

1977
01:27:33,890 --> 01:27:32,280
something about you you know and we've

1978
01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:33,900
always you know we've always got on

1979
01:27:38,570 --> 01:27:35,760
great and have done things together and

1980
01:27:41,930 --> 01:27:38,580
and and and that but but I didn't know

1981
01:27:45,290 --> 01:27:41,940
about this background yeah and I I I I

1982
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:45,300
just always felt do you remember

1983
01:27:50,450 --> 01:27:48,480
um well I know you do I'm trying

1984
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:50,460
um when you and I

1985
01:27:55,550 --> 01:27:53,280
oh hey was that it was at the LA Police

1986
01:27:58,490 --> 01:27:55,560
Museum where you took me on a tour and

1987
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:58,500
we did that live stream and and the two

1988
01:28:02,209 --> 01:28:00,239
of us went through the entire building

1989
01:28:03,950 --> 01:28:02,219
together do you remember that yeah I

1990
01:28:06,050 --> 01:28:03,960
remember that where's for your for your

1991
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:06,060
fans like yeah yeah the whole live thing

1992
01:28:10,610 --> 01:28:07,920
yeah right right right

1993
01:28:12,290 --> 01:28:10,620
um that that was so much fun but that

1994
01:28:15,950 --> 01:28:12,300
was two people that respect each other

1995
01:28:17,629 --> 01:28:15,960
you know and and I didn't know that

1996
01:28:20,450 --> 01:28:17,639
would have messed me up actually I'm

1997
01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:20,460
glad I found out now you had the chance

1998
01:28:24,530 --> 01:28:22,260
to get to know me before I dropped like

1999
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:24,540
the bomb yeah right right right right

2000
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:28,560
exactly see uh yeah but you know what I

2001
01:28:35,950 --> 01:28:31,679
mean it might have uh it might have uh

2002
01:28:38,990 --> 01:28:35,960
uh influenced uh my my opinion

2003
01:28:41,810 --> 01:28:39,000
artificially right as opposed to getting

2004
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:41,820
to know somebody just as them and and

2005
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:44,159
you know you back at me I'll tell you

2006
01:28:50,930 --> 01:28:48,000
all of my secrets off of the air and uh

2007
01:28:54,649 --> 01:28:50,940
but yeah wow that's that's that's

2008
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:54,659
absolutely incredible do you feel

2009
01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:57,600
um when oh I wanted to go back to the

2010
01:29:02,930 --> 01:29:00,480
the vanta black thing for a second and

2011
01:29:04,430 --> 01:29:02,940
and your mom okay but I think that's

2012
01:29:07,370 --> 01:29:04,440
important

2013
01:29:09,169 --> 01:29:07,380
um but with the vanta black I mean did

2014
01:29:11,390 --> 01:29:09,179
you discuss that with her did you have a

2015
01:29:15,770 --> 01:29:11,400
chance before she passed

2016
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:15,780
um but the the vanta black viewing of

2017
01:29:20,270 --> 01:29:17,120
yourself

2018
01:29:22,129 --> 01:29:20,280
do you do you think that that is what

2019
01:29:24,890 --> 01:29:22,139
other people are seeing when they talk

2020
01:29:28,790 --> 01:29:24,900
about you know a dark entity in their

2021
01:29:30,350 --> 01:29:28,800
room or a shadow or something or maybe

2022
01:29:32,689 --> 01:29:30,360
it's just a ghost at the end of the

2023
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:32,699
hallway or out of Gettysburg you know

2024
01:29:38,510 --> 01:29:36,960
running across uh the grass is that what

2025
01:29:39,669 --> 01:29:38,520
you're seeing are they seeing a vanta

2026
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,679
black

2027
01:29:43,310 --> 01:29:41,760
let me tell you something I saw

2028
01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:43,320
something in the comments over here

2029
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:45,360
somebody was like oh she's opening to

2030
01:29:49,610 --> 01:29:47,280
channeling demons and allowing

2031
01:29:51,290 --> 01:29:49,620
possessions and things like that one

2032
01:29:53,689 --> 01:29:51,300
thing the vanta Black version of myself

2033
01:29:55,629 --> 01:29:53,699
taught me was that there is no

2034
01:30:00,410 --> 01:29:55,639
separation between

2035
01:30:02,810 --> 01:30:00,420
you me any sentient being within this

2036
01:30:05,510 --> 01:30:02,820
planet's atmosphere in the universe

2037
01:30:07,370 --> 01:30:05,520
including Angels demons and everything

2038
01:30:09,110 --> 01:30:07,380
in between

2039
01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:09,120
um they're all aspects of our

2040
01:30:12,189 --> 01:30:11,040
Consciousness that we are all connected

2041
01:30:14,810 --> 01:30:12,199
with

2042
01:30:17,450 --> 01:30:14,820
Archangel has a complete opposite

2043
01:30:20,030 --> 01:30:17,460
version of himself you know like all

2044
01:30:23,689 --> 01:30:20,040
these like archetypes that we see in

2045
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:23,699
like um these religious texts you know

2046
01:30:29,090 --> 01:30:26,400
they try to depict things in like a way

2047
01:30:31,010 --> 01:30:29,100
that we would understand because what we

2048
01:30:33,649 --> 01:30:31,020
understand is this terrestrial and

2049
01:30:35,990 --> 01:30:33,659
physical plane so everything that's a

2050
01:30:37,790 --> 01:30:36,000
spiritual embodiment ends looking like

2051
01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:37,800
us you know it even says in the Bible

2052
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,560
that God made us in his own image so

2053
01:30:46,070 --> 01:30:42,480
that being the case we are definitely

2054
01:30:48,830 --> 01:30:46,080
one within God and everything else he he

2055
01:30:50,990 --> 01:30:48,840
is the angels and demons and you me he's

2056
01:30:52,850 --> 01:30:51,000
the murderer he's the saint he's the

2057
01:30:55,430 --> 01:30:52,860
crackhead he's that baby that was just

2058
01:30:58,010 --> 01:30:55,440
born you know what I mean we are all

2059
01:30:59,810 --> 01:30:58,020
that you know we're all the dark aspects

2060
01:31:02,390 --> 01:30:59,820
and we're all the light aspects you know

2061
01:31:04,250 --> 01:31:02,400
and I don't antagonize or protagonize

2062
01:31:07,189 --> 01:31:04,260
any or anything

2063
01:31:09,530 --> 01:31:07,199
so when you sit in this neutral place

2064
01:31:11,149 --> 01:31:09,540
to be honest the only time any type of

2065
01:31:15,410 --> 01:31:11,159
negative energy when you're dealing with

2066
01:31:17,930 --> 01:31:15,420
demonic haunts or negative entities they

2067
01:31:20,810 --> 01:31:17,940
only can exist within this plane of

2068
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:20,820
existence in a room in a seance if

2069
01:31:25,250 --> 01:31:23,040
you're feeding it that energy that's

2070
01:31:26,990 --> 01:31:25,260
what it becomes so if you're ultimately

2071
01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:27,000
seeing something that you don't

2072
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:28,800
understand and so you have a fear

2073
01:31:33,950 --> 01:31:31,920
response it becomes that fear response

2074
01:31:35,570 --> 01:31:33,960
because it's feeding off the only

2075
01:31:37,729 --> 01:31:35,580
sustenance it has within this

2076
01:31:39,709 --> 01:31:37,739
dimensional realm so the first thing I

2077
01:31:41,629 --> 01:31:39,719
do in a seance is it doesn't matter who

2078
01:31:44,570 --> 01:31:41,639
you invite to the party with your with

2079
01:31:46,370 --> 01:31:44,580
your energy is that if everybody is open

2080
01:31:48,410 --> 01:31:46,380
to it and doesn't have a sense of fear

2081
01:31:51,229 --> 01:31:48,420
of it that it's not going to snowball in

2082
01:31:54,290 --> 01:31:51,239
this negative Direction and I am not

2083
01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:54,300
scared of attachments and things that

2084
01:32:00,110 --> 01:31:57,840
come along with me because I believe all

2085
01:32:02,270 --> 01:32:00,120
these things to be aspects of myself and

2086
01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:02,280
these are things I can learn what learn

2087
01:32:07,129 --> 01:32:04,800
from things that I can become things

2088
01:32:09,890 --> 01:32:07,139
that I can take for myself and you'll

2089
01:32:12,290 --> 01:32:09,900
lies in my dimensional plane you know

2090
01:32:16,550 --> 01:32:12,300
and so they're all teachers and we're

2091
01:32:19,669 --> 01:32:16,560
all students and I don't fear anything

2092
01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:19,679
um even if it's a big dark ugly looking

2093
01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:22,800
creature being monster you know like

2094
01:32:27,530 --> 01:32:24,840
um I've come across Shadow beings and

2095
01:32:30,290 --> 01:32:27,540
hags and and shape-shifting creatures

2096
01:32:32,390 --> 01:32:30,300
and the first thing I feel as an

2097
01:32:36,290 --> 01:32:32,400
empathetic being

2098
01:32:38,270 --> 01:32:36,300
um I can feel their intentions

2099
01:32:40,910 --> 01:32:38,280
um which sometimes is very different

2100
01:32:43,790 --> 01:32:40,920
from the way that they look you know and

2101
01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:43,800
so sometimes you can have a glorious

2102
01:32:50,090 --> 01:32:46,400
glowing amazing

2103
01:32:51,709 --> 01:32:50,100
disarming you know handsome person or

2104
01:32:54,350 --> 01:32:51,719
being right in front of you with the

2105
01:32:57,950 --> 01:32:54,360
darkest of intentions and on the other

2106
01:33:02,030 --> 01:32:57,960
side you can have a grotesque melting

2107
01:33:04,250 --> 01:33:02,040
faced you know Skeletor creature and all

2108
01:33:06,530 --> 01:33:04,260
you notice is that it's an embodiment or

2109
01:33:10,550 --> 01:33:06,540
feeling or a representative of like

2110
01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:10,560
loneliness this or despair it just needs

2111
01:33:15,709 --> 01:33:13,199
love it needs a nurture of a type of

2112
01:33:18,110 --> 01:33:15,719
energy that it hasn't been across in a

2113
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:18,120
while you know so it's like when you

2114
01:33:25,010 --> 01:33:21,360
feel the intentions of these beings you

2115
01:33:28,490 --> 01:33:25,020
learn to over to overlook the the

2116
01:33:31,669 --> 01:33:28,500
Aesthetics of who they are you know and

2117
01:33:34,189 --> 01:33:31,679
um I think that if you've ever ridden or

2118
01:33:36,350 --> 01:33:34,199
if you've ever read The Book of Enoch or

2119
01:33:39,770 --> 01:33:36,360
any interpretations of these Angelic

2120
01:33:43,689 --> 01:33:39,780
beings they're not chiseled handsome men

2121
01:33:46,970 --> 01:33:43,699
in armor and golden swords they are

2122
01:33:50,090 --> 01:33:46,980
flaming Balls of Fire with infinite

2123
01:33:53,570 --> 01:33:50,100
rings and black eyes of the millions

2124
01:33:55,610 --> 01:33:53,580
okay that sounds more demonic to me than

2125
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:55,620
anything else you know what I mean and

2126
01:34:00,169 --> 01:33:58,080
people like OMG if they saw a ball of

2127
01:34:02,450 --> 01:34:00,179
flaming eyeballs coming at them they

2128
01:34:04,810 --> 01:34:02,460
would flip their [\h__\h] little do they

2129
01:34:06,530 --> 01:34:04,820
know they're talking to like medicines

2130
01:34:08,750 --> 01:34:06,540
you know

2131
01:34:10,610 --> 01:34:08,760
yeah you're just like dude like that's

2132
01:34:12,590 --> 01:34:10,620
the thing it's a huge misrepresentation

2133
01:34:15,169 --> 01:34:12,600
of what these energies are the

2134
01:34:17,149 --> 01:34:15,179
depictions that we've been force fed in

2135
01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:17,159
these scripts through

2136
01:34:21,770 --> 01:34:19,440
um any text any ancient text has been

2137
01:34:25,189 --> 01:34:21,780
stripped and skewed and re-translated

2138
01:34:27,770 --> 01:34:25,199
and and fortified for

2139
01:34:30,290 --> 01:34:27,780
um governments to control people and

2140
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:30,300
this happened in every single text you

2141
01:34:35,209 --> 01:34:33,360
know what I mean so it's it's like what

2142
01:34:38,330 --> 01:34:35,219
what happened was that there was this

2143
01:34:40,430 --> 01:34:38,340
initial understanding of where true God

2144
01:34:43,490 --> 01:34:40,440
and power came from and I think it was

2145
01:34:46,070 --> 01:34:43,500
from that that first line that God made

2146
01:34:48,050 --> 01:34:46,080
everyone in his own image is really a

2147
01:34:51,410 --> 01:34:48,060
misaligned interpretation of being like

2148
01:34:54,410 --> 01:34:51,420
you are God find it within yourself you

2149
01:34:56,510 --> 01:34:54,420
have the ability to create worlds and

2150
01:34:58,729 --> 01:34:56,520
universes with intent with your words

2151
01:35:02,330 --> 01:34:58,739
with your actions that you don't have to

2152
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:02,340
give up that power to something else

2153
01:35:06,290 --> 01:35:04,260
because it's all within you all those

2154
01:35:09,410 --> 01:35:06,300
demons and angels and everything are

2155
01:35:11,930 --> 01:35:09,420
really ever goes to The Human Experience

2156
01:35:15,530 --> 01:35:11,940
and that is what the vast consciousness

2157
01:35:18,410 --> 01:35:15,540
of God is that we're just one giant ball

2158
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:18,420
of energy and we just happen to be on a

2159
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:19,920
plane of existence where we're in this

2160
01:35:25,610 --> 01:35:22,560
physical way where it's like okay how do

2161
01:35:28,729 --> 01:35:25,620
I experience my intelligence my

2162
01:35:31,250 --> 01:35:28,739
unfathomable thoughts and masses

2163
01:35:33,770 --> 01:35:31,260
um I have to create fractals of myself

2164
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:33,780
and so in creating fractals of yourself

2165
01:35:41,390 --> 01:35:38,400
as God means creating the most you know

2166
01:35:44,209 --> 01:35:41,400
beautiful and the most disgusting

2167
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:44,219
versions of you and have them interact

2168
01:35:50,149 --> 01:35:47,280
with each other to understand Dynamics

2169
01:35:53,990 --> 01:35:50,159
in doing so you're fueling other

2170
01:35:56,030 --> 01:35:54,000
dimensional existences that are source

2171
01:35:59,629 --> 01:35:56,040
of that energy that's in this like

2172
01:36:01,669 --> 01:35:59,639
infinite Loop of existence that is never

2173
01:36:04,030 --> 01:36:01,679
ending and never beginning

2174
01:36:08,030 --> 01:36:04,040
I don't know if that makes any sense it

2175
01:36:13,610 --> 01:36:08,040
does and and and here's the thing

2176
01:36:15,950 --> 01:36:13,620
um if if we take some things literal and

2177
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:15,960
and and maybe we should

2178
01:36:23,270 --> 01:36:20,159
but that line about God you know uh

2179
01:36:27,470 --> 01:36:23,280
creating you know in his own image and

2180
01:36:30,050 --> 01:36:27,480
if that energy is throughout the

2181
01:36:32,090 --> 01:36:30,060
Universe right we take things you know

2182
01:36:35,090 --> 01:36:32,100
God created the Earth and God created it

2183
01:36:38,030 --> 01:36:35,100
and let there be light if that what

2184
01:36:45,070 --> 01:36:38,040
we're calling God whatever did that

2185
01:36:46,669 --> 01:36:45,080
then it is universal in that are we

2186
01:36:53,810 --> 01:36:46,679
aliens

2187
01:36:55,910 --> 01:36:53,820
right are are we ET and is is is is E.T

2188
01:36:59,209 --> 01:36:55,920
you know whoever that you know if we

2189
01:37:02,689 --> 01:36:59,219
take this you know literally and Heaven

2190
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:02,699
you know being the Stars right if that

2191
01:37:07,250 --> 01:37:05,360
is what we're dealing with here

2192
01:37:10,729 --> 01:37:07,260
then

2193
01:37:12,950 --> 01:37:10,739
wouldn't we be the same on every planet

2194
01:37:14,990 --> 01:37:12,960
wouldn't we you know what I mean if if

2195
01:37:18,590 --> 01:37:15,000
that's if that if we take it literal

2196
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:18,600
Susan right it it it's the same

2197
01:37:25,310 --> 01:37:21,840
everywhere I think that literal thing

2198
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:25,320
that's the same in every encompassing

2199
01:37:30,890 --> 01:37:28,080
planet that has its own star

2200
01:37:32,510 --> 01:37:30,900
you know like think of the vastness of

2201
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:32,520
space and every Star you see out there

2202
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:34,800
you know we have the Sun and we have the

2203
01:37:39,530 --> 01:37:36,719
planets around the sun and the life that

2204
01:37:41,390 --> 01:37:39,540
the sun sustains in our solar system but

2205
01:37:43,790 --> 01:37:41,400
you have billions of other things like

2206
01:37:46,490 --> 01:37:43,800
that and those planets and the beings

2207
01:37:48,830 --> 01:37:46,500
that are on there have the same motives

2208
01:37:51,410 --> 01:37:48,840
that we do which is probably to survive

2209
01:37:53,870 --> 01:37:51,420
and recreate and so at the core level

2210
01:37:55,850 --> 01:37:53,880
the reason why we are surviving and

2211
01:37:58,729 --> 01:37:55,860
recreating and doing all that is because

2212
01:38:01,669 --> 01:37:58,739
it's the Perpetual beginnings and

2213
01:38:04,070 --> 01:38:01,679
endings of this infinite Abyss that we

2214
01:38:06,110 --> 01:38:04,080
live in I think it's what's hard for

2215
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:06,120
people to wrap their heads around is

2216
01:38:12,410 --> 01:38:09,360
that we're so used to putting things in

2217
01:38:14,149 --> 01:38:12,420
a in a linear timeline that we don't we

2218
01:38:16,189 --> 01:38:14,159
can't fathom like

2219
01:38:18,410 --> 01:38:16,199
there's no such thing as like God

2220
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:18,420
created itself like there was no

2221
01:38:23,570 --> 01:38:22,320
creation and there was no destruction I

2222
01:38:25,070 --> 01:38:23,580
mean there is creation and destruction

2223
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:25,080
all the time but there wasn't a said

2224
01:38:30,290 --> 01:38:26,880
beginning to it and there isn't a sad

2225
01:38:33,430 --> 01:38:30,300
ending to it it's infinite in both ends

2226
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:33,440
you know so it's like nothing really

2227
01:38:38,330 --> 01:38:35,760
created itself out of nowhere there

2228
01:38:40,430 --> 01:38:38,340
there wasn't anything like nothing and

2229
01:38:43,129 --> 01:38:40,440
then something happened it was just it

2230
01:38:45,229 --> 01:38:43,139
is and it always will be and it's like

2231
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:45,239
something that we just have to accept

2232
01:38:50,750 --> 01:38:48,239
there there doesn't have to be like a

2233
01:38:52,970 --> 01:38:50,760
timeline or you know we don't have to

2234
01:38:55,250 --> 01:38:52,980
get like archaeologists to figure out

2235
01:38:56,750 --> 01:38:55,260
when you know the first humans or living

2236
01:38:58,990 --> 01:38:56,760
beings or things like that happen on

2237
01:39:01,729 --> 01:38:59,000
this planet because on the most like

2238
01:39:03,410 --> 01:39:01,739
microcosmic scales there are these whole

2239
01:39:05,450 --> 01:39:03,420
other universes and worlds that have

2240
01:39:07,729 --> 01:39:05,460
been dying and living and dying and

2241
01:39:09,290 --> 01:39:07,739
living within ourselves ourselves on a

2242
01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:09,300
cellular level everything on the most

2243
01:39:15,470 --> 01:39:12,000
microscopic and the most macroscopic

2244
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:15,480
levels are all in this Perpetual cycle

2245
01:39:21,050 --> 01:39:18,719
that never ended or began you know what

2246
01:39:23,510 --> 01:39:21,060
I mean I said yes things come together

2247
01:39:25,070 --> 01:39:23,520
and they recreate and they create new

2248
01:39:27,470 --> 01:39:25,080
breeds of things or they create new

2249
01:39:30,350 --> 01:39:27,480
races of things or they create you know

2250
01:39:32,990 --> 01:39:30,360
new Dynamics and shifts but that's part

2251
01:39:35,330 --> 01:39:33,000
of the whole process and you know and it

2252
01:39:37,129 --> 01:39:35,340
never had a beginning and it's never

2253
01:39:39,890 --> 01:39:37,139
going to have an ending and so that's

2254
01:39:42,830 --> 01:39:39,900
another reason why I zero fear death you

2255
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:42,840
know what I mean like I I just I have

2256
01:39:49,550 --> 01:39:45,840
you know no I mean I

2257
01:39:50,810 --> 01:39:49,560
I could die tomorrow and feel okay with

2258
01:39:52,250 --> 01:39:50,820
that like I'm not missing out on

2259
01:39:53,689 --> 01:39:52,260
anything if anything I'm like oh I

2260
01:39:55,490 --> 01:39:53,699
finally get to find out all the [\h__\h]

2261
01:39:58,970 --> 01:39:55,500
I've been talking about for all these

2262
01:40:01,149 --> 01:39:58,980
years you know but at the same time you

2263
01:40:04,129 --> 01:40:01,159
know I just I don't

2264
01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:04,139
you know and I have a different view of

2265
01:40:10,250 --> 01:40:07,199
like what existence means and I don't

2266
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:10,260
see it as an end-all or that there was

2267
01:40:16,370 --> 01:40:12,719
even a beginning and that God wasn't the

2268
01:40:18,649 --> 01:40:16,380
sentient and you know we are sentient

2269
01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:18,659
beings that are all feeding into the

2270
01:40:25,010 --> 01:40:21,360
grand scheme of Consciousness that is

2271
01:40:28,490 --> 01:40:25,020
this thing but we are not different than

2272
01:40:31,370 --> 01:40:28,500
what like God is not this big ball of

2273
01:40:34,010 --> 01:40:31,380
energy that's feeding us like you know

2274
01:40:36,530 --> 01:40:34,020
like we're farmed little like energy

2275
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:36,540
creatures you know like we are we are

2276
01:40:41,689 --> 01:40:38,400
God everything that's happening in this

2277
01:40:45,470 --> 01:40:41,699
cycle is part of what is God you know

2278
01:40:47,570 --> 01:40:45,480
like it is what we are what it is and

2279
01:40:50,270 --> 01:40:47,580
vice versa that includes the

2280
01:40:51,890 --> 01:40:50,280
extraterrestrials that maybe have been

2281
01:40:55,129 --> 01:40:51,900
around a little bit longer than the

2282
01:40:56,770 --> 01:40:55,139
human species or race or whatever you

2283
01:40:59,570 --> 01:40:56,780
know they might be a little bit more

2284
01:41:00,890 --> 01:40:59,580
intelligent or come across more they

2285
01:41:03,649 --> 01:41:00,900
might have different things to you

2286
01:41:05,870 --> 01:41:03,659
realize that this planet doesn't have to

2287
01:41:08,030 --> 01:41:05,880
offer you know I'm sure if we can mine

2288
01:41:09,890 --> 01:41:08,040
things you know from other planets if we

2289
01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:09,900
had the ability to hop around and

2290
01:41:15,770 --> 01:41:12,239
utilize you know certain forms of

2291
01:41:17,870 --> 01:41:15,780
energies like the crazy gases in Jupiter

2292
01:41:19,729 --> 01:41:17,880
we could like go there and that could be

2293
01:41:23,209 --> 01:41:19,739
the fuel for everything on this planet

2294
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:23,219
you know just straight solar or gas

2295
01:41:27,169 --> 01:41:25,199
power for this planet but we haven't

2296
01:41:29,209 --> 01:41:27,179
developed that yet but there might be

2297
01:41:31,010 --> 01:41:29,219
other races out there in other solar

2298
01:41:33,890 --> 01:41:31,020
systems that are beyond that it doesn't

2299
01:41:35,689 --> 01:41:33,900
make them better than us because we have

2300
01:41:37,370 --> 01:41:35,699
probably another sense of intelligence

2301
01:41:38,390 --> 01:41:37,380
that they don't intelligence that they

2302
01:41:40,669 --> 01:41:38,400
don't understand

2303
01:41:43,070 --> 01:41:40,679
and so just because they could come to

2304
01:41:46,129 --> 01:41:43,080
our planet and we have yet to leave our

2305
01:41:48,050 --> 01:41:46,139
solar system doesn't make them smarter

2306
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:48,060
in any capacity it just makes them

2307
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:50,400
different in how they evolved you know

2308
01:41:55,129 --> 01:41:52,800
and so they've probably come here trying

2309
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,139
to learn about our Evolution on a

2310
01:41:58,570 --> 01:41:57,360
different scale you know like what are

2311
01:42:01,129 --> 01:41:58,580
these you know

2312
01:42:02,810 --> 01:42:01,139
earth-based beings and like look at the

2313
01:42:05,510 --> 01:42:02,820
things that they do and maybe we seem

2314
01:42:07,129 --> 01:42:05,520
archaic in a way but you know we also

2315
01:42:09,550 --> 01:42:07,139
might be completely unique in another

2316
01:42:12,410 --> 01:42:09,560
way that you know they don't understand

2317
01:42:15,229 --> 01:42:12,420
and I think that's the case with every

2318
01:42:17,330 --> 01:42:15,239
single type of race that lives in any

2319
01:42:20,390 --> 01:42:17,340
type of solar system and it's infinite

2320
01:42:23,450 --> 01:42:20,400
you know and so and they're also part of

2321
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:23,460
the grand scheme of this whole you know

2322
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:25,280
giant you know

2323
01:42:31,310 --> 01:42:28,080
conglomerate of energy that never

2324
01:42:33,649 --> 01:42:31,320
existed or will never end and I do

2325
01:42:35,410 --> 01:42:33,659
believe that maybe we are also because

2326
01:42:37,550 --> 01:42:35,420
we're part of that whole energy field

2327
01:42:39,530 --> 01:42:37,560
that I am connected to those

2328
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:39,540
extraterrestrials just as much as I'm

2329
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:42,960
connected to you know the raccoon that's

2330
01:42:47,090 --> 01:42:45,119
you know eating out of my trash you know

2331
01:42:50,570 --> 01:42:47,100
like I don't know

2332
01:42:57,050 --> 01:42:53,330
I I agree with all of that

2333
01:43:00,050 --> 01:42:57,060
and to solidify

2334
01:43:02,689 --> 01:43:00,060
an understanding of that it's this

2335
01:43:05,750 --> 01:43:02,699
simple you and I

2336
01:43:11,689 --> 01:43:05,760
and everybody listening to us right now

2337
01:43:13,490 --> 01:43:11,699
are all made of 13 billion year old

2338
01:43:15,490 --> 01:43:13,500
particles

2339
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:15,500
that's it

2340
01:43:19,250 --> 01:43:18,000
with you know the old saying right we

2341
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:19,260
are Stardust

2342
01:43:27,050 --> 01:43:24,000
right and and and and matter never goes

2343
01:43:30,350 --> 01:43:27,060
away and the matter that we are made of

2344
01:43:33,830 --> 01:43:30,360
now was created at the at the dawn of

2345
01:43:35,870 --> 01:43:33,840
the universe and some star gave up it's

2346
01:43:37,790 --> 01:43:35,880
there's no Don that's what I'm trying to

2347
01:43:39,470 --> 01:43:37,800
say there's no such thing as a dawn of

2348
01:43:40,370 --> 01:43:39,480
the universe it never there was it was

2349
01:43:42,830 --> 01:43:40,380
always

2350
01:43:44,930 --> 01:43:42,840
well

2351
01:43:48,770 --> 01:43:44,940
I think that that's my belief too and

2352
01:43:50,930 --> 01:43:48,780
and it's so funny to hear uh physicists

2353
01:43:52,970 --> 01:43:50,940
argue about that what is time well it

2354
01:43:55,149 --> 01:43:52,980
started you know at the uh during the

2355
01:43:59,390 --> 01:43:55,159
Big Bang what was here before

2356
01:44:03,590 --> 01:43:59,400
nothing I I just don't think so but my

2357
01:44:07,609 --> 01:44:03,600
point is that if we just base the

2358
01:44:11,209 --> 01:44:07,619
creation of matter in our little slice

2359
01:44:14,330 --> 01:44:11,219
of space right our universe that's 13

2360
01:44:17,450 --> 01:44:14,340
billion years old and that that's what

2361
01:44:18,910 --> 01:44:17,460
our body is made out of it's not new

2362
01:44:21,010 --> 01:44:18,920
manner

2363
01:44:26,689 --> 01:44:21,020
it's old matter

2364
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:26,699
really old matter and and we will be the

2365
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:30,239
same matter in somebody else's body uh

2366
01:44:35,510 --> 01:44:33,119
13 billion years from now 13 billion

2367
01:44:37,910 --> 01:44:35,520
years from now or probably not in the

2368
01:44:41,390 --> 01:44:37,920
solar system probably in another solar

2369
01:44:43,550 --> 01:44:41,400
system somehow being ingested by some

2370
01:44:46,250 --> 01:44:43,560
creature that we have never ever even

2371
01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:46,260
imagined you know being part of them and

2372
01:44:54,770 --> 01:44:49,679
their whole circulation of life there's

2373
01:44:57,050 --> 01:44:54,780
uh uh I was I was in Egypt and uh a

2374
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:57,060
couple of months ago and I turned to

2375
01:45:02,570 --> 01:45:00,000
somebody we were sitting uh having

2376
01:45:04,609 --> 01:45:02,580
dinner at the base of the Great Pyramid

2377
01:45:06,530 --> 01:45:04,619
and did you just we just missed each

2378
01:45:08,209 --> 01:45:06,540
other in Egypt didn't we then yeah we

2379
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,219
did we did we just missed each other

2380
01:45:12,830 --> 01:45:10,320
right and you came right after I left

2381
01:45:14,510 --> 01:45:12,840
yeah right after you left and I mean we

2382
01:45:18,290 --> 01:45:14,520
talked about that man we gotta hook up

2383
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:18,300
that would have been a Trippy thing we

2384
01:45:23,149 --> 01:45:21,119
need to run into each other not okay run

2385
01:45:25,370 --> 01:45:23,159
into each other anyway so we're sitting

2386
01:45:28,430 --> 01:45:25,380
there and I said okay

2387
01:45:30,410 --> 01:45:28,440
everybody take a deep breath everybody

2388
01:45:33,290 --> 01:45:30,420
breathed in they thought I was going to

2389
01:45:36,290 --> 01:45:33,300
say some special thing and I said you

2390
01:45:39,649 --> 01:45:36,300
just breathed the same oxygen

2391
01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:39,659
as Cleopatra

2392
01:45:44,689 --> 01:45:42,960
and now just stop and think about that

2393
01:45:47,330 --> 01:45:44,699
for a second

2394
01:45:51,709 --> 01:45:47,340
the oxygen is oxygen it doesn't go

2395
01:45:55,550 --> 01:45:51,719
anywhere right and the same stuff that

2396
01:45:58,189 --> 01:45:55,560
you know the dinosaurs breathed and you

2397
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:58,199
know Cleopatra Moses whoever you know at

2398
01:46:03,410 --> 01:46:00,239
the base of the Great Pyramid Jesus

2399
01:46:07,550 --> 01:46:03,420
walking by Breathe the same air

2400
01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:07,560
and and we need to really come to terms

2401
01:46:13,430 --> 01:46:10,560
with that and understand that uh

2402
01:46:14,750 --> 01:46:13,440
existence is forever

2403
01:46:17,990 --> 01:46:14,760
it's true that

2404
01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:18,000
definitely believe it and I I feel like

2405
01:46:23,450 --> 01:46:21,119
maybe that's the reason why like I have

2406
01:46:25,370 --> 01:46:23,460
and I feel like everybody has the

2407
01:46:28,310 --> 01:46:25,380
ability to tap into that knowledge

2408
01:46:31,010 --> 01:46:28,320
within themselves on a cellular level I

2409
01:46:32,930 --> 01:46:31,020
wanted to ask you uh before we close out

2410
01:46:34,090 --> 01:46:32,940
the show

2411
01:46:38,209 --> 01:46:34,100
um

2412
01:46:40,729 --> 01:46:38,219
you were you were with me in the uh

2413
01:46:44,990 --> 01:46:40,739
Churchill Suite

2414
01:46:47,090 --> 01:46:45,000
when the The Voice happened yes okay uh

2415
01:46:49,790 --> 01:46:47,100
so can we talk about that for a second

2416
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:49,800
yes okay

2417
01:46:55,010 --> 01:46:52,320
um I want to know what the hell happened

2418
01:46:57,350 --> 01:46:55,020
so the audience for those that haven't

2419
01:47:00,350 --> 01:46:57,360
heard this story this is the very very

2420
01:47:02,450 --> 01:47:00,360
this is the 15 second version uh we're

2421
01:47:04,850 --> 01:47:02,460
doing an investigation on the Queen Mary

2422
01:47:08,570 --> 01:47:04,860
we're below deck in the Winston

2423
01:47:11,330 --> 01:47:08,580
Churchill Suite uh there's ten of this

2424
01:47:15,470 --> 01:47:11,340
in there maybe a dozen people camera

2425
01:47:18,290 --> 01:47:15,480
crew sound lights all that stuff and uh

2426
01:47:21,410 --> 01:47:18,300
Cherie and Tony rathman were sitting in

2427
01:47:25,070 --> 01:47:21,420
front of me I'm at the end you were to

2428
01:47:28,609 --> 01:47:25,080
my left right you were over here

2429
01:47:31,570 --> 01:47:28,619
um but over at the end where I was

2430
01:47:36,350 --> 01:47:31,580
um when the room went silent this voice

2431
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:36,360
which was a hum a female voice came out

2432
01:47:43,070 --> 01:47:40,560
of above my head like over in this

2433
01:47:44,689 --> 01:47:43,080
direction you're over here right the

2434
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:44,699
voice came from here

2435
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:46,560
and

2436
01:47:52,010 --> 01:47:49,679
um when the room was completely silent

2437
01:47:53,629 --> 01:47:52,020
right and and it was a

2438
01:47:55,729 --> 01:47:53,639
hmm

2439
01:47:59,149 --> 01:47:55,739
just like that like somebody was

2440
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:59,159
standing next to me what how does that

2441
01:48:02,290 --> 01:48:00,239
happen

2442
01:48:05,750 --> 01:48:02,300
well remember we were doing this like

2443
01:48:08,689 --> 01:48:05,760
experiment too where we had these like

2444
01:48:11,570 --> 01:48:08,699
old timey foxtrot dancers and singers

2445
01:48:14,570 --> 01:48:11,580
like come and do performances for the

2446
01:48:18,050 --> 01:48:14,580
spirits yeah that was actually very cool

2447
01:48:21,649 --> 01:48:18,060
and so we had them dressed in Period

2448
01:48:24,109 --> 01:48:21,659
clothing dancing period style dances and

2449
01:48:27,290 --> 01:48:24,119
singing songs that were popular in those

2450
01:48:29,930 --> 01:48:27,300
days like the hits right so they came in

2451
01:48:32,930 --> 01:48:29,940
did the dances sing the songs

2452
01:48:34,609 --> 01:48:32,940
and then the vibe in the room was kind

2453
01:48:36,290 --> 01:48:34,619
of like and I felt like in the Queen

2454
01:48:38,330 --> 01:48:36,300
Mary in general like I do believe it's

2455
01:48:40,430 --> 01:48:38,340
an active location but in a way that

2456
01:48:43,129 --> 01:48:40,440
it's like a party like people enjoying

2457
01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:43,139
themselves and like you bring music and

2458
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:44,639
you bring dance and then all of a sudden

2459
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:47,040
I feel like the Energy's in there like

2460
01:48:50,750 --> 01:48:49,199
it Sparks up that memory of like you

2461
01:48:52,490 --> 01:48:50,760
know a waltz and so you have these

2462
01:48:54,890 --> 01:48:52,500
energies coming in and dancing with you

2463
01:48:56,930 --> 01:48:54,900
or singing with you or you know being

2464
01:48:59,090 --> 01:48:56,940
part of that conversation and just kind

2465
01:49:02,209 --> 01:48:59,100
of like having a drunkenly Merry Little

2466
01:49:04,250 --> 01:49:02,219
hang you know then that's what I think

2467
01:49:06,109 --> 01:49:04,260
sparked it you know we also try to

2468
01:49:08,270 --> 01:49:06,119
charge the room with that Tesla coil

2469
01:49:10,970 --> 01:49:08,280
that we had lit remember we're like

2470
01:49:14,930 --> 01:49:10,980
pumping it with like energy and then we

2471
01:49:17,590 --> 01:49:14,940
had the um that that modified radio that

2472
01:49:22,250 --> 01:49:17,600
the wrathmans made

2473
01:49:23,930 --> 01:49:22,260
the evoc the evoc yeah yeah and so they

2474
01:49:25,729 --> 01:49:23,940
you know we were getting like weird

2475
01:49:26,930 --> 01:49:25,739
little things through that and then I

2476
01:49:28,910 --> 01:49:26,940
think there was a moment where we

2477
01:49:32,030 --> 01:49:28,920
decided like okay maybe we could turn it

2478
01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:32,040
off and then I think just then that was

2479
01:49:35,270 --> 01:49:33,360
when you heard

2480
01:49:36,890 --> 01:49:35,280
I didn't I remember hearing something

2481
01:49:38,330 --> 01:49:36,900
but I thought it was something like in

2482
01:49:40,070 --> 01:49:38,340
your direction like somebody had made it

2483
01:49:43,609 --> 01:49:40,080
it was like but you were like I heard it

2484
01:49:46,729 --> 01:49:43,619
like right over my head and all I the

2485
01:49:48,830 --> 01:49:46,739
women were actually on my side of the

2486
01:49:50,689 --> 01:49:48,840
room you know it was myself and then I

2487
01:49:52,729 --> 01:49:50,699
think two of the other like one of the

2488
01:49:55,729 --> 01:49:52,739
female dancers and then another of the

2489
01:49:57,530 --> 01:49:55,739
investigators and so there was nobody on

2490
01:49:59,390 --> 01:49:57,540
your side you know taught like doing

2491
01:50:01,490 --> 01:49:59,400
that you know and so when you said you

2492
01:50:02,990 --> 01:50:01,500
heard it I feel like somebody else had

2493
01:50:05,689 --> 01:50:03,000
corroborated you and like yeah I just

2494
01:50:07,729 --> 01:50:05,699
heard that too yeah Tony Tony and I but

2495
01:50:10,430 --> 01:50:07,739
when we both heard we both looked at

2496
01:50:12,129 --> 01:50:10,440
each other and

2497
01:50:15,229 --> 01:50:12,139
um it was

2498
01:50:19,310 --> 01:50:15,239
uh for me

2499
01:50:21,169 --> 01:50:19,320
I was looking for a mouth

2500
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:21,179
you're looking for a human being you're

2501
01:50:28,189 --> 01:50:25,679
looking for the source of the voice now

2502
01:50:30,770 --> 01:50:28,199
because that's how we're raised we're

2503
01:50:33,649 --> 01:50:30,780
you know you're raised to hear your mom

2504
01:50:35,450 --> 01:50:33,659
or dad's voice in the house you hear the

2505
01:50:38,330 --> 01:50:35,460
voice you look at their face and you

2506
01:50:40,370 --> 01:50:38,340
look at the mouth that just created it's

2507
01:50:45,169 --> 01:50:40,380
in our DNA

2508
01:50:47,390 --> 01:50:45,179
so I hear this hmm and I looked up like

2509
01:50:49,729 --> 01:50:47,400
I'm gonna see something you know on the

2510
01:50:53,689 --> 01:50:49,739
on the ceiling the roof right in front

2511
01:50:57,290 --> 01:50:53,699
of you right and and uh and Tony looked

2512
01:50:59,209 --> 01:50:57,300
over his shoulder he looked I I went

2513
01:51:02,750 --> 01:50:59,219
this direction and he looked a little

2514
01:51:05,930 --> 01:51:02,760
bit uh behind him and then we both

2515
01:51:10,370 --> 01:51:05,940
looked at each other uh right right at

2516
01:51:12,649 --> 01:51:10,380
that moment but I I don't without this

2517
01:51:17,090 --> 01:51:12,659
you know something physical creating it

2518
01:51:19,310 --> 01:51:17,100
something else made that uh made that

2519
01:51:22,430 --> 01:51:19,320
voice I heard like a disembodied voice

2520
01:51:24,530 --> 01:51:22,440
like what causes that when you're on a

2521
01:51:27,950 --> 01:51:24,540
when you're on a ghost hunt in an

2522
01:51:30,350 --> 01:51:27,960
investigation in a disembodied voice you

2523
01:51:31,870 --> 01:51:30,360
know comes in no get out you know

2524
01:51:35,330 --> 01:51:31,880
whatever it is

2525
01:51:43,310 --> 01:51:35,340
how how is it made Audible

2526
01:51:48,830 --> 01:51:45,050
that you're within an environment that

2527
01:51:51,169 --> 01:51:48,840
has the ability to hold sounds and

2528
01:51:53,530 --> 01:51:51,179
images and memories you know just like

2529
01:51:58,970 --> 01:51:53,540
we have cassette players and videotapes

2530
01:52:03,229 --> 01:51:58,980
DVR systems you know um that ability to

2531
01:52:04,910 --> 01:52:03,239
hold on to a memory a sound an image you

2532
01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:04,920
know that's something that we harness

2533
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:06,960
from this planet and turned into devices

2534
01:52:12,169 --> 01:52:09,840
that we can convey you know but all that

2535
01:52:15,250 --> 01:52:12,179
stuff exists all the the same material

2536
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:15,260
that we use to harness sound and images

2537
01:52:19,609 --> 01:52:18,719
exist in the environment around us you

2538
01:52:22,729 --> 01:52:19,619
know and then you bring in

2539
01:52:25,570 --> 01:52:22,739
electromagnetic energy you bring in you

2540
01:52:28,189 --> 01:52:25,580
know certain atmospheric events you know

2541
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:28,199
maybe the friction I mean you're in a

2542
01:52:34,189 --> 01:52:30,560
giant steel cage which is the Queen Mary

2543
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:34,199
surrounded by by water which is a

2544
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:37,679
conduit for energy you know and then who

2545
01:52:43,310 --> 01:52:40,080
knows like the things that happen that

2546
01:52:45,410 --> 01:52:43,320
you know we could maybe be sparking like

2547
01:52:48,109 --> 01:52:45,420
a memory or something that like brushes

2548
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:48,119
in you know the energy and like a

2549
01:52:51,709 --> 01:52:49,679
familiar form and it just kind of

2550
01:52:53,570 --> 01:52:51,719
releases something

2551
01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:53,580
you know that where an environment

2552
01:52:58,250 --> 01:52:56,400
becomes a sentient being in a sense you

2553
01:53:00,830 --> 01:52:58,260
know and it's something we can't explain

2554
01:53:03,530 --> 01:53:00,840
I have no way to explain that I have a

2555
01:53:06,890 --> 01:53:03,540
hypothesis of how it works could I be

2556
01:53:08,810 --> 01:53:06,900
wrong probably most likely you know I

2557
01:53:11,149 --> 01:53:08,820
probably have no idea what the hell's

2558
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:11,159
going on I'm probably a [\h__\h] nut you

2559
01:53:14,590 --> 01:53:12,719
have on your show right now I'm just

2560
01:53:17,810 --> 01:53:14,600
totally lost

2561
01:53:18,850 --> 01:53:17,820
it's something Susan that I will never

2562
01:53:22,609 --> 01:53:18,860
forget

2563
01:53:25,370 --> 01:53:22,619
and it it caught me by surprise I wasn't

2564
01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:25,380
I can I I wasn't expecting that well

2565
01:53:30,590 --> 01:53:27,840
none of us are when something like that

2566
01:53:33,770 --> 01:53:30,600
happens right it caught me completely by

2567
01:53:36,950 --> 01:53:33,780
surprise and I know that it's real now

2568
01:53:39,050 --> 01:53:36,960
right you see it on TV you see it in a

2569
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:39,060
movie you know what I mean

2570
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:43,199
and when it when it actually happens and

2571
01:53:49,810 --> 01:53:46,320
it wasn't here's the here's the other uh

2572
01:53:52,850 --> 01:53:49,820
a part for me I don't have some

2573
01:53:56,270 --> 01:53:52,860
Fantastical ginormous thing to say about

2574
01:53:58,430 --> 01:53:56,280
this where the voice said you know I'm

2575
01:54:01,010 --> 01:53:58,440
Amelia Earhart and I've been on this

2576
01:54:03,770 --> 01:54:01,020
ship for 70 years please come rescue me

2577
01:54:06,290 --> 01:54:03,780
no it wasn't anything like that it was a

2578
01:54:08,990 --> 01:54:06,300
hum hmm

2579
01:54:11,570 --> 01:54:09,000
but you know with a British accent by

2580
01:54:13,370 --> 01:54:11,580
the way I swear that I was a British

2581
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:13,380
accent

2582
01:54:16,970 --> 01:54:14,719
um

2583
01:54:19,669 --> 01:54:16,980
great conversation tonight and I can't

2584
01:54:23,290 --> 01:54:19,679
wait to see you uh in well okay

2585
01:54:25,790 --> 01:54:23,300
everybody wants you uh to know that

2586
01:54:29,750 --> 01:54:25,800
Susan's going to be with me here live in

2587
01:54:31,250 --> 01:54:29,760
the bunker uh in in February and I'm

2588
01:54:33,890 --> 01:54:31,260
really looking forward to that I want

2589
01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:33,900
everybody to go to conscious life Expo

2590
01:54:40,850 --> 01:54:37,199
and get your tickets and info and and

2591
01:54:42,050 --> 01:54:40,860
and get uh tickets to Susan Sands I'm

2592
01:54:44,090 --> 01:54:42,060
going to be at one of them I just don't

2593
01:54:45,590 --> 01:54:44,100
know which one yet we could pick and

2594
01:54:47,510 --> 01:54:45,600
choose anyone I'll let you know but

2595
01:54:49,850 --> 01:54:47,520
aside from the Seance I am also

2596
01:54:51,709 --> 01:54:49,860
moderating a pretty badass panel on

2597
01:54:53,810 --> 01:54:51,719
divination

2598
01:54:56,270 --> 01:54:53,820
um so I'm excited about that too that's

2599
01:54:58,669 --> 01:54:56,280
gonna be a great conversation

2600
01:54:59,570 --> 01:54:58,679
um something that um Christine and I put

2601
01:55:01,970 --> 01:54:59,580
together

2602
01:55:04,129 --> 01:55:01,980
um to discuss you know psychic tools and

2603
01:55:06,169 --> 01:55:04,139
how to utilize them you know and so I'm

2604
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:06,179
very excited for that we have a lot of

2605
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:07,920
people that you would know from like the

2606
01:55:11,570 --> 01:55:09,360
Gaia universe that are going to be on

2607
01:55:18,250 --> 01:55:11,580
that panel so does she have the most

2608
01:55:23,270 --> 01:55:21,709
where can everybody reach out to you

2609
01:55:26,149 --> 01:55:23,280
um well I'm most active on my Instagram

2610
01:55:29,209 --> 01:55:26,159
page which is Susan the dragon witch all

2611
01:55:31,250 --> 01:55:29,219
one word and um definitely if you come

2612
01:55:33,649 --> 01:55:31,260
to conscious life Expo I love to meet

2613
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:33,659
you come to the Seance come to my panel

2614
01:55:39,050 --> 01:55:35,760
on divination

2615
01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:39,060
um also check out the darkzone.tv and

2616
01:55:43,970 --> 01:55:41,040
then download the dark Zone app um where

2617
01:55:45,530 --> 01:55:43,980
I do my investigations with a lot of

2618
01:55:48,229 --> 01:55:45,540
investigators you probably know and love

2619
01:55:50,270 --> 01:55:48,239
from other series on travel and sci-fi

2620
01:55:53,330 --> 01:55:50,280
and Discovery

2621
01:55:54,890 --> 01:55:53,340
um a e and all that so um and yeah you

2622
01:55:56,570 --> 01:55:54,900
know come say hi write to me I always

2623
01:55:59,209 --> 01:55:56,580
write back to the people on my social

2624
01:56:01,629 --> 01:55:59,219
media accounts so

2625
01:56:04,970 --> 01:56:01,639
um yeah yeah there you go

2626
01:56:07,129 --> 01:56:04,980
Susan and I have our own table in the

2627
01:56:09,229 --> 01:56:07,139
lounge so if you want to come hang out

2628
01:56:11,689 --> 01:56:09,239
with us that's where we're going to be

2629
01:56:13,790 --> 01:56:11,699
Susan behave and be well you're the

2630
01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:13,800
absolute very best great conversation

2631
01:56:17,629 --> 01:56:15,840
tonight I learned so

2632
01:56:20,290 --> 01:56:17,639
and it was nice meeting everyone in the

2633
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:20,300
comments section too

2634
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:21,840
potheads

2635
01:56:28,070 --> 01:56:24,719
I'll talk to you later

2636
01:56:30,169 --> 01:56:28,080
bye guys I'll talk to you Susan

2637
01:56:34,250 --> 01:56:30,179
Slaughter great conversation tonight and

2638
01:56:37,550 --> 01:56:34,260
it is consciouslife expo.com and Susan's

2639
01:56:40,850 --> 01:56:37,560
Instagram link is right there below us

2640
01:56:43,370 --> 01:56:40,860
all right all right what a great show

2641
01:56:46,910 --> 01:56:43,380
tonight uh what am I doing tomorrow

2642
01:56:48,590 --> 01:56:46,920
tomorrow night Whitley streamer is here

2643
01:56:50,510 --> 01:56:48,600
all right so come and hang out though

2644
01:56:52,790 --> 01:56:50,520
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2645
01:56:54,830 --> 01:56:52,800
with Susan and I Fade to Black is

2646
01:56:57,169 --> 01:56:54,840
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2647
01:56:58,970 --> 01:56:57,179
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2648
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:58,980
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2649
01:57:03,410 --> 01:57:01,199
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2650
01:57:04,669 --> 01:57:03,420
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2651
01:57:08,270 --> 01:57:04,679
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01:57:09,830 --> 01:57:08,280
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2653
01:57:11,930 --> 01:57:09,840
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01:57:15,290 --> 01:57:13,619
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01:57:16,729 --> 01:57:15,300
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2658
01:57:19,790 --> 01:57:18,060
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2659
01:57:23,990 --> 01:57:19,800
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2660
01:57:26,090 --> 01:57:24,000
streber I want everybody to be safe

2661
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:26,100
go back Lee tappy

2662
01:57:50,650 --> 01:57:35,480
[Applause]

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01:58:05,390 --> 01:58:01,420
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